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STATISTICS on RPGS

Started by Ancientgamer1970, January 01, 2012, 09:21:00 PM

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Ancientgamer1970

So, as an avid reader and more of a person that stands in the shadows and observes people through their reactions to certain things, I was wondering how people can make a statement and use words such as:

It is the WORST rpg ever sold?

It is the WORST ruleset ever.

It is the BESTSELLING game this year.

It is the WORST SELLING game this year.

MORE people play this edition.

MORE people avoid that edition.

and so on and so on...

SO, my question is how can you posters make such statements and NOT give any evidence to support your supposition???  I, for one, will never make such declarations and NOT provide statistical evidence to back up the claim.  Where do you get your evidence??  Is it just a personal opinion???  Is it only in your little gaming group or are you speaking again in general terms applying to all spectrums within RPG's???

GeekEclectic

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499801SO, my question is how can you posters make such statements and NOT give any evidence to support your supposition???

Nothing on the forum, or on the internet as a whole, makes you give supporting facts. That question was easy.
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It's not an academic publication, it's a discussion forum. When you're sitting having a casual chat with friends, do you ask for references?

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"My boyfriend is the best-looking."
"Really? Have you taken a poll of at least 1,000 people to decide?"

Don't be a wanker. It's just a discussion forum.
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Rincewind1

QuoteDon't be a wanker. It's just a discussion forum.

Hells bells, I thought only people in Guy Ritchie's films still used that term.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Benoist

Quote from: Rincewind1;499832Hells bells, I thought only people in Guy Ritchie's films still used that term.

That's Australia for you! LOL (I love the word "wanker" :) )

Rincewind1

I guess when you are too busy running for your life from the 19404384912 species that can kill you, you have no time to invent new words.

;)
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Ancientgamer1970

#6
Hmmmm, as usual, all responses given lack any semblance of intelligence or constructivity.  It is the usual insults and nonsense.  

:rolleyes:


QuoteWhen you're sitting having a casual chat with friends, do you ask for references?

I have a keen mind for specifics and facts.  I do not engage in generalities based on assumption, personal opinion, or fictionalized comments based on how one feels especially with casual friends.  I will not use terms such as "Everyone", "all", "the majority", "the minority" " a few", " a lot", and so on without some type of statistical data to strengthen my argument.

Benoist

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499732I keep on trolling troll troll.


TristramEvans

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499801So, as an avid reader and more of a person that stands in the shadows and observes people through their reactions to certain things, I was wondering how people can make a statement and use words such as:

It is the WORST rpg ever sold?

It is the WORST ruleset ever.

It is the BESTSELLING game this year.

It is the WORST SELLING game this year.

MORE people play this edition.

MORE people avoid that edition.

and so on and so on...

SO, my question is how can you posters make such statements and NOT give any evidence to support your supposition???  I, for one, will never make such declarations and NOT provide statistical evidence to back up the claim.  Where do you get your evidence??  Is it just a personal opinion???  Is it only in your little gaming group or are you speaking again in general terms applying to all spectrums within RPG's???

Carcosa is the WORST gaming supplement ever sold.

Why? Graphic depictions of child molestation that the players are encouraged to partake in.

FATAL is the WORST ruleset ever.

Why? Anal circumferance tables for infants.

D&D 4E is the BESTSELLING RPG of 2010.

Why? Because I can google sales figures motherfucker.

Every indy game that never sold a single pdf copy tied for WORST SELLING rpg in 2010.

why? Common Sense.

I've never even seen the last two points (More people play/less people play) EVER brought up on any RPG forum I've ever been to, mainly because that would be impossible to know.

Ancientgamer1970

QuoteWhy? Because I can google sales figures motherfucker.

Links???   Show me the money...

misterguignol

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499836Hmmmm, as usual, all responses given lack any semblance of intelligence or constructivity.  It is the usual insults and nonsense.  

:rolleyes:

Well, it would help if your questions weren't utterly stupid.  For example:

QuoteIt is the WORST rpg ever sold?

It is the WORST ruleset ever.

These two questions are moronic.  There's thing called "subjective opinion," you may have heard of it.  When people say something is the BEST or WORST any person of reasonable intelligence will know implicitly that they are voicing their opinion, not making an objective statement of fact.

QuoteIt is the BESTSELLING game this year.

It is the WORST SELLING game this year.

MORE people play this edition.

MORE people avoid that edition.

People draw inferences from data they have been privy to.  When people say "D&D is the best-selling rpg of all time" they don't need to provide sales figures for this claim; it's simply obvious if you know anything about table-top rpgs.

Also, when people do need to look up numbers they use this thing called "Google."  You should check it out sometime; it will blow your mind.

and because I am a fan of your excessive third-grade usage of punctuation:

QuoteSO, my question is how can you posters make such statements and NOT give any evidence to support your supposition??? I, for one, will never make such declarations and NOT provide statistical evidence to back up the claim. Where do you get your evidence?? Is it just a personal opinion??? Is it only in your little gaming group or are you speaking again in general terms applying to all spectrums within RPG's???

TristramEvans

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499836Hmmmm, as usual, all responses given lack any semblance of intelligence or constructivity.

[snip]

I will not use terms such as "Everyone", "all", "the majority", "the minority" " a few", " a lot", and so on without some type of statistical data to strengthen my argument.

chuckle.

misterguignol

Quote from: TristramEvans;499842chuckle.

And that is what a one-shot-one-kill looks like.

Ancientgamer1970

Quote from: misterguignol;499841Well, it would help if your questions weren't utterly stupid.  For example:



These two questions are moronic.  There's thing called "subjective opinion," you may have heard of it.  When people say something is the BEST or WORST any person of reasonable intelligence will know implicitly that they are voicing their opinion, not making an objective statement of fact.



People draw inferences from data they have been privy to.  When people say "D&D is the best-selling rpg of all time" they don't need to provide sales figures for this claim; it's simply obvious if you know anything about table-top rpgs.

Also, when people do need to look up numbers they use this thing called "Google."  You should check it out sometime; it will blow your mind.

and because I am a fan of your excessive third-grade usage of punctuation:

I choose to use punctuation in that manner because that is me.  How you use punctuation is your business.

Obviouisly, you have a reading problem because I was not ASKING for answers to those statements but asking how can people make such claims without providing some type of statistical data to prove their argument.  Unlike people who make such outrageous claims, I will provide links and statistical data.

QuoteWhen people say something is the BEST or WORST any person of reasonable intelligence will know implicitly that they are voicing their opinion, not making an objective statement of fact.

Good point and the best response from your condescending post which makes me wonder if this is how you respond to all posts you read.    This again verifies why I think posts I read are just outright without merit especially if one is attempting to argue the value of whatever is discussed.

Ancientgamer1970

Quote from: TristramEvans;499842chuckle.

Why chuckle???  It was easy to count the number of posts and make that claim.