Just do it, please!!!  Haha!!!

"You'll love it just as much as you did the last time you bought it!"
"Now including 5% new material!"

Quote from: HappyDaze;1066525"You'll love it just as much as you did the last time you bought it!"
"Now including 5% new material!"

No, what the recent trend in OSR games is to take everything out but what was in White Box, simplify it even more, then add everything that was in 1e in different supplements. And then that guy has to make a version of his witch supplement for it.

See S&W Continual Light (I think there's even lighter versions) or Heroes Journey as examples.

Better yet call the next one "Just another stolen game design" :mad:

"36% more elegant!"

I know folks like to poke fun at the numerous OSR rulesets available but on the flipside this is what creative freedom looks like.

How many different pastiches, adaptions, presentations we have of classic mythology including a certain series of billion dollar films? All because those myths are free for anybody to use as they see fit.

The alternative that an individual, group, or company controls what you are allowed to create with the material. The amount of freedom dependent on their whims.

Quote from: estar;1066575I know folks like to poke fun at the numerous OSR rulesets available but on the flipside this is what creative freedom looks like.

How many different pastiches, adaptions, presentations we have of classic mythology including a certain series of billion dollar films? All because those myths are free for anybody to use as they see fit.

The alternative that an individual, group, or company controls what you are allowed to create with the material. The amount of freedom dependent on their whims.

This guy gets it.

The greatest thing about the OSR is that it is so open-ended and free that you can do nearly anything with it, and while many of the retro-clones can get a little repetitive, they are also what paved the way for the more original, daring, and ambitious OSR projects like White Star, Operation White Box, Lamentations of the Flame Princess, Pundit's own Lion & Dragon, and many others as well.

In fact, I am writing a Choose Your Own Adventure story based on Original Dungeons & Dragons that is intended as a tribute to the OSR and the wide variety of material within, both the repetitive generic stuff and the more innovative and gonzo elements as well.

I call it Tales of Chivalry! and I literally posted the first chapter of the CYOA work today. It will be updated on a weekly regular basis and I encourage you all to read it and participate in it by posting in the comments section! Link is below...

https://archiveofourown.org/works/16782529/chapters/39384253

The work is dedicated to Pundit and the other OSR figures out there!

I'm not against having more RPGs, or more OSR RPGs; but I know that most of these authors are Not making much money off of these projects.  Also, the naming process doesn't always indicate what we should expect from the newest release.  Someone might as well name one, "Just Another OSR".  The name would be very catchy, and easy to remember.

Diluted D&D.

Somebody please release a hexcrawl adventure named "The Land of Oessar."

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1066615This guy gets it.

Not really. We can pretend people are working on all sorts of neat stuff, but with few exceptions most of the OSR is just rehashed D&D. For every Operation White Box or Lion & Dragon, there are five hundred "White Box BUT I added a warlock class!"

Swords and Wizardry Light/Continual Light is probably the worst offender I've seen...it's not even a GOOD derivative. S&W is already so barebones, I don't even understand the point.

Quote from: Brad;1066755Not really. We can pretend people are working on all sorts of neat stuff, but with few exceptions most of the OSR is just rehashed D&D. For every Operation White Box or Lion & Dragon, there are five hundred "White Box BUT I added a warlock class!"

Swords and Wizardry Light/Continual Light is probably the worst offender I've seen...it's not even a GOOD derivative. S&W is already so barebones, I don't even understand the point.

Eh, fair point. But to keep things in perspective, those rehashes helped pave the way for stuff like Lion & Dragon and Operation White Box. And I sort of find retro-clones to be oddly charming.

Plus, with WOTC re-releasing the actual old-school versions of D&D on PDF and Print On Demand via Drive Thru RPG, we'll probably be seeing a lot less generic clones in the OSR's future now that you can get the actual real thing a lot more easily than before

Quote from: Brad;1066755Not really. We can pretend people are working on all sorts of neat stuff, but with few exceptions most of the OSR is just rehashed D&D. For every Operation White Box or Lion & Dragon, there are five hundred "White Box BUT I added a warlock class!"

Swords and Wizardry Light/Continual Light is probably the worst offender I've seen...it's not even a GOOD derivative. S&W is already so barebones, I don't even understand the point.

That just means you aren't the target audience.

And that's OK.

I read a lot of OSR type stuff while working on our home brew. I ended up embracing some concepts before going a very different direction.

Which direction isn't important. But the reason for the direction is the reason those other OSR games exist. (Beyond just trying to make some money on it.)

The game reflects what a particular group or GM prefer. What might seem minor or even undesirable to others is exactly what those folks wanted.

I know of people that loath most of what my group likes. And vice versa.

Quote from: Tod13;1066761That just means you aren't the target audience.

My impression is the target audience for most of this stuff is literally "my gaming group". It's just house rules for the most part.

Quote from: Brad;1066762My impression is the target audience for most of this stuff is literally "my gaming group". It's just house rules for the most part.

Just like the first years of the hobby.
And so, in part, the OSR