Quote from: mcbobbo;692427Yeah I had no idea there was a cartoon.  So that might make for good fodder.

What's the conflict resolution mechanic, though?

In Pokemon it's still combat.  In Pokepark there's a little indirect resolution through races, contests, etc.  So those would be skill checks I guess, but it's still combat heavy.

Does MLP do combat?

If you're true to the source material, you wouldn't do combat.  You'd use races and contests to resolve most situations - after getting all parties to agree to said method of resolution.  

Many situations requiring resolution wouldn't even require a direct competition.  There are things like 'throw an awesome party' that are supposed to be cooperative (different Pony's have different ideas about what a good party would be, but together they get the best of everthing).  Or something.

I would have to watch more carefully to be sure.

Adventure Time awesomely captures that gonzo-style of D&D I cut my teeth on in the 80s. Even more so because most of the time we ported in rules from FASERIP.

But I don't want an Adventure Time edition of D&D because seeing someone try to quantify that show with levels and classes and XP awards would drive me nuts.

I'd rather an edition of D&D based on the D&D cartoon.

I know someone a while back said something about not wanting a D&D cartoon because it would be too sanitized... eh, not really. Modern cartoons aren't nearly as restrictive.

Check out something like the latest Transformers cartoon (Prime), or the CG Clone Wars cartoon. Clone Wars is probably the closer fit as there is a lot of real flesh on flesh combat (though obviously, the primary combat is Clones and Jedi vs Droid Armies), and some of it can be fairly violent. (I mean, you see one fallen Jedi just cutting clones practically into pieces in one episode).

The idea that they couldn't do a D&D cartoon that really reflected real combat just isn't accurate. They CAN. And I think it would actually be pretty cool.

Though, me personally, I would hope it wasn't done in Forgotten Realms. Eberron would be cool though. Planehopping could also be an interesting idea, letting the heroes travel from setting to setting fixing things adventuring and being badass.

Quote from: TristramEvans;692522But I don't want an Adventure Time edition of D&D because seeing someone try to quantify that show with levels and classes and XP awards would drive me nuts.

That reminds me, did you guys see the clip where Finn asks the Fire King if the Flame Princess HAD to be evil?

Edit: I tried like hell to find it because it would be a lot funnier in context.  But it's towards the bottom of this...
http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Ignition_Point/Transcript

QuoteFinn: Okay, so your daughter's evil. We've established that, but do you think if a good guy really liked her, could he, change her to good?
Flame King: Hmmmmm, well, there'd be penalties to her experience, if she acted out of alignment. But, yes, someone could change her.
Finn: [Smiles happily]

Quote from: mcbobbo;692581That reminds me, did you guys see the clip where Finn asks the Fire King if the Flame Princess HAD to be evil?

Edit: I tried like hell to find it because it would be a lot funnier in context.  But it's towards the bottom of this...
http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Ignition_Point/Transcript

There are tons of d&d references in AT.  I look forward to the AT Explore the Dungeon and AT Munchkin games coming out.

Quote from: Piestrio;692227To be totally fair Mistwell, novels and prose have never been the preferred medium of Super Heroes.

If you were to look at best selling kids comics you'd see more supers and less S&S.

I wish I knew where to look for the best selling kids comics.  I assume it's mostly manga, which I wouldn't say is dominated with supers.  My wife reviews kids comics for GeekMom, and none of them are supers either.  It seems like stuff like Gunnerkrigg Court are popular.  Which is...I dunno, I suppose it's more fantasy than anything, but not traditional fantasy.  Definitely both Marvel and DC are not focused on kids comics right now.  Their offerings are pretty feeble.

QuoteBut it's kind of wank, we can all point to examples of both S&S and supers being really popular leading to the conclusion that... wait for it... both are pretty popular right now.

Mind blowing I know.

Yeah, I am not seeing the supers thing, beyond TV.  DisneyXD certainly has a very strong set of kids-age supers stuff, and it's definitely popular, and carries over to toys.  But beyond the cartoons, which are still not as popular as things like Phineus and Ferb, I am not seeing how kids are as drawn to supers as they are to other genres right now.  I suppose DC also has a decent set of supers stuff on TV for kids as well.  I'd say both the major Supers companies have focused their kids-themed stuff on television primarily, with some toy carry-over.

I still hold by my opinion from a few years ago, when I said that if they were going to do another cartoon, they need to do it in the animation style of Avatar with the writers from Teen Titans (the original, not the subsequent spin offs).  I really think that would have the largest appeal.

Quote from: Mistwell;693183Yeah, I am not seeing the supers thing, beyond TV.  DisneyXD certainly has a very strong set of kids-age supers stuff, and it's definitely popular, and carries over to toys.  But beyond the cartoons, which are still not as popular as things like Phineus and Ferb, I am not seeing how kids are as drawn to supers as they are to other genres right now.  I suppose DC also has a decent set of supers stuff on TV for kids as well.  I'd say both the major Supers companies have focused their kids-themed stuff on television primarily, with some toy carry-over.

I totally agree that the state of kids comics is pretty deplorable.

But aside for TV and Toys:
 
2013 Box Office take:

1. Iron Man 3
3. Man of Steel

2012 Box Office take:

1. The Avengers
2. The Dark Knight Rises
7. The Amazing Spiderman

2011 Box Office take:

10. Thor
12. Captain America
17. X-Men First Class

2010

3. Iron Man 2

2009:

13. X-Men Origins Wolverine

2008:

1. The Dark Knight
2. Iron Man
3. Hancock
17. The Incredible Hulk

2007:

1. Spider Man 3

2006:

5. X-Men 3
6. Superman returns

2005:

8. Batman Begins

2004:

2: Spiderman 2
4. The Incredibles

Etc...

Also have you looked at the toy isle recently? Supers supers supers.

Maybe it's because I work with kids but seriously every kid I meet knows about supers, watches superhero cartoons, plays superhero video games, watches superhero movies and can hold forth on who would win in a fight between Hulk and Superman.

Super Heroes are massively popular with kids and teens.

Now whether that means that RPGs should chase that is another conversation (probably not).

Quote from: Piestrio;693248Super Heroes are massively popular with kids and teens.

Not just them either.  I was surprised when I was watching Hard Knocks.

For those unaware, Hard Knocks is an HBO TV shows that each year follows an NFL team.  They are in practices, in the offices, etc.  The players are constantly talking about which super hero is the best, or what super power would be the best to have.

These are 20-something pro-football players.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;693251Not just them either.  I was surprised when I was watching Hard Knocks.

For those unaware, Hard Knocks is an HBO TV shows that each year follows an NFL team.  They are in practices, in the offices, etc.  The players are constantly talking about which super hero is the best, or what super power would be the best to have.

These are 20-something pro-football players.

I take it that was a subject the Bengals were talking about this year?  The things I go through waiting for Hard Knocks to make it to the NFL Network....

Quote from: flyerfan1991;693266I take it that was a subject the Bengals were talking about this year?  The things I go through waiting for Hard Knocks to make it to the NFL Network....

Yep.  At least the first couple episodes.  Then my HBO free preview pass expired

Quote from: Piestrio;693248Maybe it's because I work with kids but seriously every kid I meet knows about supers, watches superhero cartoons, plays superhero video games, watches superhero movies and can hold forth on who would win in a fight between Hulk and Superman.

Super Heroes are massively popular with kids and teens.

Heh, my kids could care less about super heroes and are much more into Indiana Jones or Star Wars.  Methinks I've done something right there.