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So WOTC reacted to the backlash...

Started by Kerstmanneke82, January 13, 2023, 12:22:41 PM

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Omega

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January 27, 2023, 02:21:40 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on January 26, 2023, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: Jam The MF on January 26, 2023, 02:51:17 PM
That's the only positive text I've ever read, regarding L. Williams.  The legend of what a terrible person she was, has always drowned out any humanity she may have had.


   She was also very accommodating of William W. Connors when he had just started at TSR and faced a family emergency that made him think he was going to have to leave the job.

   Everything I've heard suggests Williams was far from perfect as a manager of TSR, but I think a lot of her legacy has been tarnished by partisans of Gygax on the one hand and WotC on the other.

They also helped Fritz Lieber to survive as they kept paying him royalties well on apparently.

Alot of Gary's ire was directed not so much at Loraine as it was at one particular of the brothers Blume. The one that kept making bad management decisions. Something about buying a loom or knitting factory? Weird stuff. His other major irk was the legal sniping from TSR that kept damaging his career and other companies.

Armchair Gamer

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January 27, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: Omega on January 27, 2023, 02:21:40 AM
They also helped Fritz Lieber to survive as they kept paying him royalties well on apparently.

  TSR was trying to make a go of Lankhmar for years; one of the last products they released before they went under was a standalone Lankhmar RPG based on the AD&D rules, with design by Shane Hensley.

Anon Adderlan

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January 30, 2023, 10:18:37 AM Last Edit: January 30, 2023, 10:20:39 AM by Anon Adderlan
Quote from: Jam The MF on January 26, 2023, 02:51:17 PM
That's the only positive text I've ever read, regarding L. Williams.  The legend of what a terrible person she was, has always drowned out any humanity she may have had.

I heard the writers based The Lady of Pain from #Planescape on her.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on January 26, 2023, 02:55:17 PM
She was also very accommodating of William W. Connors when he had just started at TSR and faced a family emergency that made him think he was going to have to leave the job.

Quote from: Omega on January 25, 2023, 03:01:39 PM
But her brother was an avid gamer and all around nice fellow. Loraine herself was an overall pleasant person too. She was just also a corporate wolf and valued writers over designers. She was a godsend for a while to novelists. Two of my former players got their starts in writing due to her. Very yin-yang gal.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on January 27, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: Omega on January 27, 2023, 02:21:40 AM
They also helped Fritz Lieber to survive as they kept paying him royalties well on apparently.
TSR was trying to make a go of Lankhmar for years; one of the last products they released before they went under was a standalone Lankhmar RPG based on the AD&D rules, with design by Shane Hensley.

Fact is people are complicated, and it's always better to address bad/good ideas and actions rather than vilify/idealize an individual.
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