Quote from: Balbinus;262254Really?  I was put off by John Wick designing it as a reaction to his perception of D&D, which as best I can tell is based on nothing resembling the text of D&D as written or the experience of it as played by the vast majority of its fans.

To be fair, it's a small part of the intro chapter and pertains to the way he played one game at the RPGA. He also associates the D&D character with Conan and the HotB character with Elric, making many comparisons, etc.

The antagonistic D&D part of his design helps introduce mechanical differences between his game and the most popular RPG out there.

The PDF is well worth the $5 and getting past the intro (if you find it unsavory) is easy enough. Or try the preview PDF, which is what I've been using to introduce the game to my monday night group (which consists of avid D&D players, among other game systems).

Quote from: Balbinus;262254Really?  I was put off by John Wick designing it as a reaction to his perception of D&D, which as best I can tell is based on nothing resembling the text of D&D as written or the experience of it as played by the vast majority of its fans.

John sent me a demo copy many months ago by email. It was unfinished but well fleshed out at this point.

I was very much impressed. For the people who dislike him or his work, what I'm about to say might not mean much but this is truly his best work ever.

I totally understand how the basis which inspired the creation of HotB can turn people off. As an avid, long time D&D player, I have to say his idea of D&D is extremely weird to me.

But if you look at the point of arrival (HotB) and ignore the seed of the idea, I think you'll find at least an interesting game, which might or might not be your cup of coffee.

For me, it's game book I definitely want on my gaming shelf. A must buy. Which happens (literally) maybe once a year in the last 5-6 years in my case. Can't wait to get it, especially since my main computer is kaput and I am deprived of the demo.

Despite the words of praise, I must say the game concepts have a strong flavor and some of the choices were odd to me. I kept on flipping opinion as to whether I would run this thing (as is) or not. But as a worse case scenario, I thought the ratio of great ideas per page, things you can lift off or adapt to other games, or get ideas from... was extremely high.

Hope you'll get a chance to take at least a quick look. I would be curious to know what you think.

Quote from: Balbinus;262254Really?  I was put off by John Wick designing it as a reaction to his perception of D&D, which as best I can tell is based on nothing resembling the text of D&D as written or the experience of it as played by the vast majority of its fans.

Hasn't John Wick gone on record as despising D&D and the people who play it, multiple times?

If so, that's a pretty boneheaded thing to base an RPG on.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPundit;262387Hasn't John Wick gone on record as despising D&D and the people who play it, multiple times?

If so, that's a pretty boneheaded thing to base an RPG on.

RPGPundit

Yes.  It's expressly an anti-D&D.

That said, Consonant Dude says that despite it's origins it's actually turned out ok, which carries weight with me.  But the background is that he created it as a response to his own frankly bizzaro idea of what D&D is which idea is based as best I can tell on pure prejudice.

The Barbarians of Lemuria is written, playtested and just awaiting the last of the artwork. It should be out in pdf by mid-November and in print by the end of the month.

The Barbarians of Lemuria is written, playtested and just awaiting the last of the artwork. It should be out in pdf by mid-November and in print by the end of the month.

The Barbarians of Lemuria should be out mid-November in pdf. and by the end of the month in print.

The Barbarians of Lemuria should be out in pdf by mid-November and in print by the end of November.

Simon W

The Barbarians of Lemuria should be out in pdf by mid-November and in print by the end of November.

Simon W

The Barbarians of Lemuria should be out in pdf by mid-November and at the end of the month in print.

Simon W

I wish someone knew something about The Barbarians of Lemuria.

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Methinks Simon was having trouble whilst posting...

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Either that or he's really, really pleased that the pdf is coming out soon.

Quote from: Caesar Slaad;262667I wish someone knew something about The Barbarians of Lemuria.
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I have seen a free product by the same name; it was a neat system for playing sword&sorcery-style fantasy based on some Lin Carter (?) stories. It may be the same thing.

[edit]Link for the curious[/edit]

Quote from: Melan;262689I have seen a free product by the same name; it was a neat system for playing sword&sorcery-style fantasy based on some Lin Carter (?) stories. It may be the same thing.

[edit]Link for the curious[/edit]

Methinks Melan missed the point...

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