I have to admit, of all the different gaming systems I've owned, no books that I have are in better shape than the palladium ones.  I'd say it was from lack of use but that ain't true. Few systems require as much page flippin as palladium and I play it pretty much exclusively.  These books should be dead three times over. But they aint.  I can't explain how, but its a fact.  Palladium books are tough cookies.

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1047274Sadly, you chose the Greek Myths for your Amber System Game. I think it would've been an obvious fit for "Supers: Diceless".

That has been done at the campaign level (not by me, to clarify, but by other Amber GMs).

And yes, you could use the Amber-diceless system to make a Supers game but you'd need to put some work into it.

Quote from: Kuroth;1047815Good full account of Recon there Toadmaster.  

I always acknowledge that games are not accurate. I found the weapon armor, castle books fine, with a sort of internal balance.  I or you might know all sorts of historical detail, with resources and all, but in gaming I know that most players just want some idea of things.  I could point to a little sketch, and it was good to go.  It was a product of the preinternet.

I have some of the weapons armor books. At the time they were some of the most accessible, and I suppose they are today as well, although the internet offers a lot these days that we didn't have when those books were written.

They certainly have their use, and there is some good info in there. Mainly it is the know it all tone that is my main turn off, and that seems to reach a peak the further from being supported by any facts it gets. KS has a tendency of lecturing in his writing.


The Palladium / Recon connection is a mixed blessing. It has kept the rules available which is appreciated, but I'd love to see what a company more interested in real world military actions might have done with it.

I really like the way dead reign does fast zombies.  It can probably outrun you. It never gets tired.  So it should just fly headlong at you the second it sees you.  But it doesn't.  When it sees you. It just watches you... and waits for you to make the first move.  Oh goody goody, the prey is gonna run. Oh I cant wait... But I must.... Wait for it... Waaiiiiit for it!!!!

Try to walk away, run away or attack and we're off to the races, flying headlong for you at top speed. Not with the intent of tearing you to shreds... Oh no.  With the intent of tackling ya and keepin ya down so that the slower zombies can finally catch up and get a turn!

Also a fan of the repeater zombie.  Just drivin to work in a van with no gas... Flippin ya the bird.  Mowing the lawn...

We had a party head down to the local gun store to of course salvage any guns or ammo they could find and lo and behold. A repeater zombie is at the gun range firing a gun with no bullets at some creeper zombies downrange.  Click. Click. Click.... So the party decides to give him a fresh clip.  Repeater zombie's eyes light up as he gives a creeeeeeepy smile... reloads and does the party's work for them.

For all the talk about "great settings, terrible rules" (and I'm only commenting on the Palladium fantasy line) I found the products pedestrian and not that novel. I think they only got traction because there wasn't much competition back in the day for good adventure content. Chaosium's Stormbringer and Elric! adventures were much more interesting to me. TMNT's was a nifty game, but again, actual comics were better adventure material than Palladium's adventure publications.

I've never played recon or dead reign. Neither war-rpgs nor zombie-rpgs have ever appealed to me. But the fans of those games sure seem to like them.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1048405I've never played recon or dead reign. Neither war-rpgs nor zombie-rpgs have ever appealed to me. But the fans of those games sure seem to like them.

Dead Reign is a very clean representation of the Megaversal System. If I was into zombies, it would be my game of choice. Again, lots of great ideas. Some creative variations on the zombie trope, too.

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1048419Dead Reign is a very clean representation of the Megaversal System. If I was into zombies, it would be my game of choice. Again, lots of great ideas. Some creative variations on the zombie trope, too.

And the beat art from any zombie game.

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1048419Dead Reign is a very clean representation of the Megaversal System. If I was into zombies, it would be my game of choice. Again, lots of great ideas. Some creative variations on the zombie trope, too.

Since that system works really well for Invid, Mechanoids, Xiticix and the bugs in Systems Failure, I could certainly see it working well for Zombies.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1048752Since that system works really well for Invid, Mechanoids, Xiticix and the bugs in Systems Failure, I could certainly see it working well for Zombies.

Yes, but I specifically mean the way the rules are presented. Much better structured than in Rifts. It's pretty well edited compared to older Megaversal games. Comparable to the last Robotech rulebook, I would say.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1043648Here's a full list of everything I've enjoyed from Palladium over the years:
1) TMNT back in the early 90s
2) Robotech back in the early 90s
3) ...
OK, done now.

Pretty much my experience also.  We did try the Palladium fantasy game, but it paled in comparison to TMNT and Robotech.

Quote from: pdboddy;1049325Pretty much my experience also.  We did try the Palladium fantasy game, but it paled in comparison to TMNT and Robotech.

How DARE YOU!

Quote from: tenbones;1049331How DARE YOU!

1) Hit reply with quote.
2) Dare.
3)
4) Profit.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1048752Since that system works really well for Invid, Mechanoids, Xiticix and the bugs in Systems Failure, I could certainly see it working well for Zombies.

Systems Failure is a fun game. I prefer it to Dead Reign, but only because I'm burnt on Zs and I love giant monsters.

It's an easy to read, clean presentation too...compared to other PB books.

Yeah, I absolutely loved Systems Failure.