Quote from: Effete on August 18, 2022, 08:09:37 PM
Scuttlebutt says it'll just be "DnD" and the "One" part is just marketing. Users will probably just say 5.5 or 6e, much to WotC's dismay.

I do hope so. I know that a number of us called D&D Essentials, 4.5 -- and called out their promise not to do a 4.5 -- despite their insistence to the contrary. Like the upcoming stuff, it was fully backwards-compatible except for a gaggle of "minor" errata like changing the task DC table again. (To be fair, the Essentials version was actually the least bad of the three versions, and seemed like they had actually bothered to playtest it.)

Worst comes to worst I suppose we can start calling the original edition 0D&D.

Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on August 18, 2022, 09:16:19 PM

Quote from: Effete on August 18, 2022, 08:09:37 PM
Scuttlebutt says it'll just be "DnD" and the "One" part is just marketing. Users will probably just say 5.5 or 6e, much to WotC's dismay.

I do hope so. I know that a number of us called D&D Essentials, 4.5 -- and called out their promise not to do a 4.5 -- despite their insistence to the contrary. Like the upcoming stuff, it was fully backwards-compatible except for a gaggle of "minor" errata like changing the task DC table again. (To be fair, the Essentials version was actually the least bad of the three versions, and seemed like they had actually bothered to playtest it.)

I missed out on the entire 4e era. I was so burned out after 3e/3.5 (most of which are now sitting in a box in my closet), I swore off DnD and fantasy gaming in general. People tried to get me to play Pathfinder and I was just like, Nope. I anticipate there will be similar fatigue this time around, too, where people that invested heavily in 5e will just stick to the "pre-update" material or branch off elsewhere.

I don't see this being a financial hit for WotC, though. I'll think it'll pay off for them.

QuoteWorst comes to worst I suppose we can start calling the original edition 0D&D.

Or just 'DnD.'

Quote from: S'mon on August 18, 2022, 06:55:28 PM
Looks like an excellent opportunity for a 2014-style 5e clone based off the 5e SRD.

I would be much more interested in this than D&D 6e.

I see this as Wizards trying to have it both ways.
They can put all the woke stuff into One and leave 5E as is, but I don't think it'll work that way.

Quote from: Ruprecht on August 18, 2022, 10:26:23 PM
I see this as Wizards trying to have it both ways.
They can put all the woke stuff into One and leave 5E as is, but I don't think it'll work that way.

I think they've already put too much into the last several 5E releases.  They just couldn't leave 5E alone.  They had to paint it up with rainbows, celebrate all colors other than white, and celebrate all sexes other than male.  Orcs and Drow are somehow totally different now, because "reasons"....  And they are calling "that", 5E.

In the online resources, and the more recent print runs; it is no longer the same 5E D&D.  They have already changed it.

The only people who should be making DND 6e are us in this site.

If WOTC tries to claim the Classic OD&D acronym, Our OD&D could always be called:

Year Zero D&D. 
1974 D&D. 
White Box D&D. 
True D&D. 
Real D&D.
Original D&D.
Pure D&D.
Early D&D.
Blackmoor D&D.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on August 18, 2022, 11:04:38 PM
The only people who should be making DND 6e are us in this site.

It's a heavy burden, but one I would gladly undertake.

Mainly I expect I'll be arguing with everyone else here for why we need a Weapon vs. AC matrix at least as an optional rule.

It's very unlikely that D&D One will be released with that name.

They've called it a "code name" just like D&D Next was a code name for fifth edition, originally.

Honestly, D&D One is a bad code name, even. Wish they had thought a bit more about that, since it invites so many silly Xbox 360 -> Xbox One type comparisons.

Quote from: Jam The MF on August 18, 2022, 11:24:04 PM
If WOTC tries to claim the Classic OD&D acronym, Our OD&D could always be called:

Year Zero D&D. 
1974 D&D. 
White Box D&D. 
True D&D. 
Real D&D.
Original D&D.
Pure D&D.
Early D&D.
Blackmoor D&D.

Pfft !!!
I ain't writin' full words.

I think OD&D is gonna be safe. According to some insiders, "One D&D" is a marketing term only. More like a slogan than anything else. As someone else pointed out, it's likely something some over-educated suit came up with because they thought it sounded hip and cool. All the kids down at the arcade are gonna love it. Yeah!

Quote from: hoshisabi on August 19, 2022, 12:53:02 AM
It's very unlikely that D&D One will be released with that name.

It will just be D&D, with no edition designation. People will call it that anyway and they will realize that if they haven't already. You kill edition wars by killing the designation.

I like how they are going out of their way to proclaim compatibility without any details. They got plenty of product out there on shelves and nobody wants that to sit or get returned or sales drop like a stone because people are 'waiting' for the next edition.

I can't say I can find anything positive on the content changes in the announcements. What they are planning on doing for backgrounds / feats sounds like making 5e less modular and actually more complicated for new players. Some of the details on feats also also struck me as a bit 4e-like as well.

The digital side will be interesting and take years to unfold.

Tying ASI to background is a really  terrible idea, it means eg every Fighter will be a Soldier. No one will play a Noble Fighter. Wonder how long it will take for them to spot this.

Quote from: ForgottenF on August 18, 2022, 08:27:28 PM
The small subset of people who care deeply enough about D&D --or RPGs generally-- to seriously consider alternatives have already migrated out to OSR games or other systems. That wider audience of casual players that don't know anything other than 5e, is big enough now that they don't really need us anymore. Because D&D is the gateway RPG for almost all new players, they really just have to worry about maintaining that dominant profile in the market, and retaining most of the casual players that are coming in.

Yeah, this. Younger Boomers and older Gen-X are a dying breed. And the endless edition wars made us splintered and disunited, so we're all huddling in our own little corners of the internet. 

Meanwhile the kids are caught in a weird place where they barely know that the 20th century existed, yet everything around them is so soulless and hollow that they feel a hunger for a nostalgia they never had.

And that nostalgia is repackaged for them to consume in a way that makes it completely unrecognisable. It's the gaming equivalent of listening to Harry Styles covers of Led Zeppelin or the Doors.   

(And I'm in no way opposed to new things in RPGs, I thought 5E was kind of bland but it was okay as a 'greatest hits' edition and its fine to play. What destroyed things was how everything became so heavily politicised around 2016. After we spent the 80's and 90's with the religious Right trying to destroy the hobby, we somehow fell asleep on duty and allowed the hobby to be completely consumed, body and soul, by the Left). 

What if One D&D actually means One D&D to WotC where they actively and aggressively shut down sites like dmsgiild or drive thru rpg from printing older material and forcing everyone who wants to play D&D to play the woke dogshit version? They could also all but kill the ogl going forward.