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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2020, 08:54:27 AM »
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I may know less about Mork Borg after reading his review.

It's colorful, hard to read, based on doom metal (maybe) and allegedly fascinating, but based on the review, the actual game sounds almost tacked on as an afterthought.

Any Mork Borg fans here?

If so, start a thread.

I'd love to get a review copy of Mork Borg to be able to confirm, but I have the strong impression that the game is really not a coherent product at all but entirely about "Style" and hype, much like Vornheim was (that is, two or three little slivers of useful material, a ton of fluff-heavy garbage with no mechanical support and a metric fuckton of edgy art and attitude which was the only real reason people bought it, to feel like they too were mohawk-headed badboys of the mountain-dew slurping basement-dwelling hobby and might someday get to play D&D with a pronstar).

I mean, in Mork Borg's case I could be wrong, but it's very telling to me that NOT ONE DAMN PERSON has been able to coherently tell me what it even is, never mind what's in it.
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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2020, 08:56:38 AM »
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He was on a podcast a few months back and was pretty candid and apologetic about his kickstarter.


Did he admit he didn't give a shit about the OSR, thought his gamers were idiots he could manipulate with fake stories of his awesome megadungeon and pseudo-intellectual drivel about gameplay cribbed from his decades as a White Wolf player with slight modifications, and that he stole the money on purpose?

Because if not, he wasn't being candid. He was just making up a new story in the hopes you'll be stupid enough to believe him again so he can steal more money from you.
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2020, 08:58:38 AM »
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Yeah. He's owning his mistakes, which is a damn sight better than a lot of people do, with Kickstarters or any thing else.


Owning your "mistakes", when by "mistakes" you mean fraud and theft, getting close to a DECADE after having run off with the money and remained completely silent about it since then, is not even slightly better. It's just something you do when you hope enough time has gone by that you can once again make money off the dumb rubes you fooled once.
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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2020, 09:03:27 AM »
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Well, let's be real. The Kickstarter fiasco happened when all this Kickstarter stuff was new, and people didn't really "get" how it was supposed to work yet. It was easy to get in over your head.


In 2012 I already knew that you're not supposed to pretend you have a huge megadungeon you've been gaming in for years that's already fully-created and waiting to be released as a product, when in fact you just made it all up, haven't written almost anything, and hadn't played D&D in decades until you thought you could get prestige and money by convincing imbeciles that you were a deep thinker about old school.
Actually, I knew you weren't supposed to BLATANTLY LIE since at least a year or two before kindergarten.
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2020, 09:22:51 AM »
Pundit, tell us how you really feel.

Yikes.  I was going to ask for a summary; but I was able to infer it pretty clearly.  =D  

Sounds like he's made a politician's apology, learned nothing, and wants to forget it all happened.
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2020, 10:22:01 AM »
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I'd love to get a review copy of Mork Borg to be able to confirm, but I have the strong impression that the game is really not a coherent product at all but entirely about "Style" and hype, much like Vornheim was (that is, two or three little slivers of useful material, a ton of fluff-heavy garbage with no mechanical support and a metric fuckton of edgy art and attitude which was the only real reason people bought it, to feel like they too were mohawk-headed badboys of the mountain-dew slurping basement-dwelling hobby and might someday get to play D&D with a pronstar).

I mean, in Mork Borg's case I could be wrong, but it's very telling to me that NOT ONE DAMN PERSON has been able to coherently tell me what it even is, never mind what's in it.

This is pretty much my impression of it, its like it doesnt even want you to play it.

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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2020, 10:28:45 AM »
Yeah Mork Borg is a coffee table book.
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2020, 10:52:58 AM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlVYJTSzuU

Had no idea wtf Gloryhammer was, Googled that shit, and pulled up that video.

Still trying to figure out how I'm supposed to feel right now...

Looked like Thor cosplay to me.

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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2020, 10:56:09 AM »
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Someone let me know if the coward ever opens the comments section so I can go point out how he's a lying fuck, a fake swine-turned-OSR guy because he saw a way to fleece money from the rubes, and that he stole tens of thousands of dollars from gaming while leaving a decent gaming company hanging.

No one should give a shit what this piece of human garbage has to say.

Oh well as long as he's fake-swine

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« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2020, 10:57:16 AM »
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Looked like Thor cosplay to me.

Thats kinda funny cause he's in a Nanowar video as Odin, apparently he ascended to godhood after dying at the end of Beyond the Galactic Terror Vortex when he sacrificed his life by diving into a volcano because he was stabbed with the knife of evil.

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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2020, 11:22:09 AM »
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I'd love to get a review copy of Mork Borg to be able to confirm, but I have the strong impression that the game is really not a coherent product at all but entirely about "Style" and hype, much like Vornheim was (that is, two or three little slivers of useful material, a ton of fluff-heavy garbage with no mechanical support and a metric fuckton of edgy art and attitude which was the only real reason people bought it, to feel like they too were mohawk-headed badboys of the mountain-dew slurping basement-dwelling hobby and might someday get to play D&D with a pronstar).

I mean, in Mork Borg's case I could be wrong, but it's very telling to me that NOT ONE DAMN PERSON has been able to coherently tell me what it even is, never mind what's in it.

I've gotten a lot of practical every day use out of Vornheim. It's far more blue collar utilitarian than you make it out to be.

And if you wrote something which had as much utility as Vornheim, I'd buy it. I don't need more campaign settings. I need shit that helps me throw together something on the fly seamlessly when my players make an unexpected turn. Vornheim sometimes helps me do that.

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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2020, 11:23:13 AM »
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Thats kinda funny cause he's in a Nanowar video as Odin, apparently he ascended to godhood after dying at the end of Beyond the Galactic Terror Vortex when he sacrificed his life by diving into a volcano because he was stabbed with the knife of evil.

OK I am sold. I need to watch more of these videos.

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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2020, 11:41:49 AM »
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Pundit, tell us how you really feel.

Yikes.  I was going to ask for a summary; but I was able to infer it pretty clearly.  =D  

Sounds like he's made a politician's apology, learned nothing, and wants to forget it all happened.

I wouldn't take Pundit's summary at face value--he has a serious grudge against Maliszewski for some reason, and may not be the most objective witness.
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2020, 05:57:20 PM »
I think Pundit needs to quit beating around the bush and give us a straight-up, unambiguous summary of what he's really thinking.
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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2020, 07:22:48 PM »
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Did he admit he didn't give a shit about the OSR, thought his gamers were idiots he could manipulate with fake stories of his awesome megadungeon and pseudo-intellectual drivel about gameplay cribbed from his decades as a White Wolf player with slight modifications, and that he stole the money on purpose?

Because if not, he wasn't being candid. He was just making up a new story in the hopes you'll be stupid enough to believe him again so he can steal more money from you.


Woah, I'd be interested to know more about that.