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Author Topic: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?  (Read 11386 times)

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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2021, 02:59:37 PM »
You know what the best thing you can do to people like Jessica Price is?

Go be successful with things they hate.

For example her crowd hates the games Gary Gygax created.  So, I run wildly successful 1e AD&D and original D&D games all the time, virtual and in person.  I have 12 people in my Monday night game, and I regularly can pull a crowd of 10-14 at events.  My dance card at GaryCon this year is all old school, although I've mixed it up a bit: Gamma World 1e and Twilight:2000 (also 1e, Free League can keep their wokeshit T2k version, thankyewverymuch), as well.

Show them people having a good time with things they have tried to tear down.  They hate that.
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2021, 06:33:13 PM »
You know what the best thing you can do to people like Jessica Price is?

Go be successful with things they hate.

For example her crowd hates the games Gary Gygax created.  So, I run wildly successful 1e AD&D and original D&D games all the time, virtual and in person.  I have 12 people in my Monday night game, and I regularly can pull a crowd of 10-14 at events.  My dance card at GaryCon this year is all old school, although I've mixed it up a bit: Gamma World 1e and Twilight:2000 (also 1e, Free League can keep their wokeshit T2k version, thankyewverymuch), as well.

Show them people having a good time with things they have tried to tear down.  They hate that.

Can confirm
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2021, 06:46:17 PM »
Kind of like a variation on 'the best revenge is living well', eh? :)

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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2021, 07:10:38 PM »
Outside of gaming if someone is publicly trying to tear you down or capture your attention, the best thing to do is take care of your vulnerabilities as best you can, making no show about it, and then live as if they didn’t exist.  You can’t control every 3rd party, and the 2nd party dragging you relishes the thought that you are reacting to them, concerned with them, feeling obligated to pay attention to their efforts.  All of that fuels their desire.

This doesn’t change in the RPG community either.  Unless there is a commercial reason to be the counter-gadfly to their shtick, it’s always best to deprive them of attention and your concern, or any semblance that they’ve forced you to modify your behavior, once you’ve done your own private SWOT.

But mainly I was confirming that DD’s Monday night game is very fun, and he does indeed pull crowds of dozen+ at his con games. 

Most of the people genuflecting to them in public are not applying it in private.  This is a high school cafeteria crisis in fundamental character, and it should be treated that way

Be prepared to be ostracized from “the hobby” and not give a fuck.  That’s all they really have, and it ain’t worth that much.  Not enough to offer your energy to the energy vampires, anyway
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2021, 08:06:32 PM »
EOTB sticking it out through some of my more remarkably stupid feats of DMing are proof positive that the old school is still the best school :D
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2021, 08:37:14 PM »
This week there's been a series of scandals that has seen ttrpg SJWs vigorously cancelling their own. So why is Jessica Price untouchable in spite of having sold out to Wizards of the Coast?

I think that there are actually 2 questions in this situation:

1: Why haven’t the SJW’s turned on her?

2: Why The Fuck did WOTC hire Her?


I think Charon has hit the nail on the end here for question #1:

In the far lefty opinion, she isn't working for WoTC, she infiltrated it. …

This!

As much as the SJW’s do not like D&D – they cannot fully destroy D&D until they are in charge of it.

Miss Price’s hiring is a signal to the SJW cognoscenti that they are starting to exert more control over the game.

So, yay Miss Price! You go girl!


Now we get to:

Why The Fuck did WOTC hire Her?

I mean honestly! Her online shenanigans and public meltdowns should not be obscure to anyone that is paying attention.

One of her first posts about her Raveloft gig was basically slagging off Mike Mearls.

And nothing happened…

So only one conclusion can be reached: The people running D&D absolutely know.

I posit that Ray Winninger, Chris Perkins, and Jeremy Crawford not only know; They are down with Jessica Price.

Why? Because I think that they really don’t like Mike Mearls either…

WARNING! WARNING!

*Serious Tinfoil-Hat wearing territory here…*

5e was largely Mike Mearl’s baby. He ran the show, not them. Perkins, and Crawford were there, but all content was filtered through Mearls.

Perkins, Crawford, and Winninger are far more liberal than Mearls. I would bet big money that they would have done several things in 5e very differently to Mearls if they were in charge.

They certainly would have never hired a consultant like Pundit  - Perkins, and Crawford  are the kind of gamers he had been mocking for years before 5e was even in development. And they had to know that Mearls was talking to him.

It seems that until recently they were “locked in” to the plan that Mearls helped set for 5e in terms of content and release schedule. But that now seems to be loosening up…

So phasing out the old plan - Time for the new plan!

You now have a set of hardcore leftists at the helm. But to bring D&D to where they think that it should be; they need to keep their jobs.

But what they can do is set a new tone, and signal to their fellow travelers that things are starting to change.

Thus, Jessica Price was hired to work on Ravenloft.

A torch bearer who can say out loud what they can’t, and is ultimately expendable so that they are insulated from anything incendiary. So no matter Miss Price's ultimate fate,  they can continue to slowly turn D&D into the game that they want it to be.

IMHO this is a sign that some kind of SJW 5.5 / 6e product or announcement is inevitable in 2024.
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2021, 09:38:36 PM »
They're also publishing an adventure by Danial Kwan, who was the behind the whole Oriental Adventures fiasco.

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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2021, 10:55:15 PM »
I don't know how I missed this, that Price has been hired by WotC.  And now, Kwan is hired too?

Here it comes, folks.  IF you don't already have your 1e and OD&D Print-on-demand stuff, *get it now*.  Or at least get the PDFs so you can get it printed elsewhere.  Because these "people" are going to conduct a little digital book burning soon, mark my words.
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2021, 11:09:32 PM »
If they’re going to do it, they should get it over with.  That way people move beyond the boogeyman into a phase 2 that feels...little different than phase 1.

I welcome my favorite books being considered so dangerous they must be hidden and forbade.  I am sure this will make the youth flee from them and stay only with the books their elders say are wholesome, and appropriate.
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2021, 11:09:37 PM »
I hope that WotC makes every character in Ravenloft queer.

Then the horror will be complete.


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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2021, 12:01:05 AM »
Y'know I can't help but think though that if they do go all moral panic over D&D and purge it, they're going to have a rough time explaining the next nostalgia-heavy 80s TV event that has characters playing AD&D...and the fans can't get their hands on those books.

When Stranger Things debuted I had no issue garnering the attention of non-D&D players, old D&D players, and people who'd only played 4e and 5e by simply fitting the phrase "...yes, D&D, like in Stranger Things!" into the game description or conversation, and almost always at least a couple of players would ask me how they could get into "80's style" D&D, whereupon I would point them to the PDFs/POD files.

HM, I WONDER WHAT I'LL DO IF THOSE ARE TAKEN AWAY.
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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2021, 02:13:33 AM »
I hope that WotC makes every character in Ravenloft queer.

Then the horror will be complete.


Excellent.

Reality or Parody?

Let's let the viewers decide!

https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1364316059747016706

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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2021, 08:34:43 AM »
You would think after Price got the heave-ho from Paizo, WotC might be just the teensiest bit hesitant to hire her on.

Heh. Shows what I know, I guess.

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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2021, 09:19:22 AM »
I hope that WotC makes every character in Ravenloft queer.

Then the horror will be complete.


Excellent.

Reality or Parody?

Let's let the viewers decide!

https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/1364316059747016706


Hmmm. I know very little about Ravenloft the setting, though I do have experience with the original module. Given my shallow knowledge of the setting, my understanding is that it consists of a demiplane where various vampires, liches, death knights, etc. are in control. The role of the PCs is still to fight against the bad guys. If pretty much all of the named characters are being made queer, wouldn’t this essentially turn the setting into something like “QueerHunter”™️? Our heroes spend their time hunting and killing the queer bad guys in Ravenloft? Seems like a weird direction for the woke to want to go in.

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Re: SJWs Cancelling Each Other; Why not Jessica Price?
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2021, 11:38:01 AM »
Does this mean 5e, despite some of its flaws, may truly be the last version of D&D that didn't go completely off the rails, despite WOTC's best efforts?

Maybe 6e will be a solution of sorts:  It will give the crowd that wants all the inclusivity elements, non-binary cultures, etc. that they desire and 5e will still have a following that prefer to not include everything and the kitchen sink: with all the extra bits that have built up around it, I doubt it is fading into the sunset anytime soon.

So both groups will be happy as they now have their own edition?
6e gets to continue exploring their woke sensibilities and WOTC stops releasing more goofy stuff for 5e to 'bring it up to modern cultural standards' as they focus on the new edition.

Everyone kind of wins?

While I would prefer that people steer towards the earlier editions on a grand scale, that is more of a pipe dream than anything.  I can live with 5e as unless 6e mechanics are some groundbreaking thinking that deserves merit, I feel it is going to be nothing more than a woke calling card for WOTC.

Perhaps giving people like Price and her like-minded associates 6e to run with it, will prove some point about where the real market lies with D&D and Hasbro's profit, rather than relying on the misdirection of Twitter bait.

6e will be great for one thing at least:  it will move the attention of a lot of players who are more concerned with the social guise of D&D, rather than the game itself onto the new shiny and give 5e a bit of breathing room.

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