OK, I must be blind. While looking through Savage Species I just saw that none of it is OGC. I wonder why?

well, basically, 99% of WotC D&D content is not OGC.

Far as I know, besides the material from the 3 core books (and not all of it, by a long shot), the only OGC material WotC has released is a couple pages in the MMII and pretty much all of Unearthed Arcana. They've added in material to the SRD from some of the other books like the Epic Level Handbook, but it's very specific material.

Quote from: ZalmoxisOK, I must be blind. While looking through Savage Species I just saw that none of it is OGC. I wonder why?

No, Savage Species is not OGC, however, most of the content of the book is derived entirely from OGC. This came up while I was working there and I took the question of racial levels to brand because we were considering using that system for a Bastion Press book. At the time, the answer was to go ahead and use it without citing any special permission. However, since there has been a major change in brand leadership since then, it wouldn't hurt to contact them about this before using material from it on a commercial product.

I believe the Psionics Handbook is OGC, too (that is, most of it).

Quote from: Name LipsI believe the Psionics Handbook is OGC, too (that is, most of it).

A lot of it is in the SRD, but the book itself isn't OGC. There's a bit of a difference.

Yes. As far as D&D is concerned (I haven't followed the d20 Modern line), the only books with OGC are MM2 (just a pair of pages at the end, really, and that's material taken -- and fixed -- from Creature Collection) and Unearthed Arcana.

Every other book is 100% closed content.

Now, their material may also exist in the SRD. But only by virtue of being in the SRD, which is disconnected from the books.

yes, the SRD (which is filtered content from various books) is OGC and not the books, because the books contain content that WotC doesn't want to share.  

I guess I never paid that much attention. I mean, most of the D20 stuff apart from D&D is OGC. It just suprised me.

Quote from: ZalmoxisI guess I never paid that much attention. I mean, most of the D20 stuff apart from D&D is OGC. It just suprised me.

It's their ball so they get to make the rules.  It's either play with their ball they way they want or else everyone is left playing with their own balls.

Quote from: NicephorusIt's their ball so they get to make the rules.  It's either play with their ball they way they want or else everyone is left playing with their own balls.

I guess I'll have to play with my own balls then. Right? :deviousgrin:

Quote from: ZalmoxisI guess I'll have to play with my own balls then. Right? :deviousgrin:

I checked 'em out when you were showing everybody.  

Very nice.

Quote from: NicephorusI checked 'em out when you were showing everybody.  

Very nice.

Except when they're sweaty and itchy, then we all suffer.

Quote from: AndvariExcept when they're sweaty and itchy, then we all suffer.

Hey, it happens. :mischief:

Quote from: ZalmoxisI guess I never paid that much attention. I mean, most of the D20 stuff apart from D&D is OGC. It just suprised me.

If you check the title pages of WotC books, look at the fine print. They always put "contains no open content" in it. d20 material from third-party companies has to contain a minimum amount of OGC according to the OGL. I've seen some grousing about this, especially near the beginning of the d20 movement, but really, WotC opened up a lot of content in the SRD, and was adding to it pretty regularly for a while. If you look closely at many third-party d20 products, and check what's actually OGC, you may be surprised at how companies follow the letter of the OGL but not the spirit. They "cripple" the OGC by making the names of monsters PI (product identity) or some such stuff. I understand doing this to an extent, but some of it goes overboard, in my opinion.