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Author Topic: Satine & Stone are Naughty  (Read 5323 times)

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2022, 05:51:44 AM »
Why is it that the current version of D&D seems to be a poison pill for these fuckers to initiate their career self-destruct? Is it the toxic social environment that surrounds D&D "celebrity"?
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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2022, 06:11:21 AM »
Why is it that the current version of D&D seems to be a poison pill for these fuckers to initiate their career self-destruct? Is it the toxic social environment that surrounds D&D "celebrity"?

  I think anyone that tries so hard to be "important" or a "celebrity" tends to have flaws along with that drive that trend towards extreme self centered behavior.  IF they were boxers it might not matter as much, but since they are decent looking fit people hanging around nerds I think they run into WAY too many people they can bully and manipulate and get away with it.  All chickens eventually come home to roost, and I think people who are a little too sociopathic sooner or later run out of runway for their take off.  I am not as certain it is D&D as it is the ease of which a person can work towards "celebrity" thanks to the internet.  No internet video and such, no one ever knows who these two are.  I think the current version of D&D just happens to be the one with easy internet celebrity hood attached. 

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2022, 06:33:35 AM »
Why is it that the current version of D&D seems to be a poison pill for these fuckers to initiate their career self-destruct? Is it the toxic social environment that surrounds D&D "celebrity"?
It has nothing to do with the current version of D&D other than it being the version out right now. If WotC put out a new version tomorrow, the shit wouldn't stick to 5e but would instead drip onto whatever the new hotness they are pushing.

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2022, 06:53:32 AM »
Found this link on Tenkar's vid it's a list of alleged horror stories from the 'celebrity' couple.

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2022, 07:05:04 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2022, 07:10:30 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

Well, that's the thing... If you work in the 'real world' and you get screwed over you learn and just deal with it. The people I've real sympathy for here are the freelancers who did the work and never got a penny (allegedly).

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2022, 07:16:44 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

Well, that's the thing... If you work in the 'real world' and you get screwed over you learn and just deal with it. The people I've real sympathy for here are the freelancers who did the work and never got a penny (allegedly).

  Getting robbed is one thing, but the majority of complaints I see are they dealt with shitty people/the job sucked.  I think a few weeks of being a laborer on a brick laying crew would do a shitload for those people's perspective. 

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2022, 07:27:12 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

Well, that's the thing... If you work in the 'real world' and you get screwed over you learn and just deal with it. The people I've real sympathy for here are the freelancers who did the work and never got a penny (allegedly).

  Getting robbed is one thing, but the majority of complaints I see are they dealt with shitty people/the job sucked.  I think a few weeks of being a laborer on a brick laying crew would do a shitload for those people's perspective.

Yeah, but it's 2022 man we've got to all 'do better'.

The funny thing is if you're being treated badly by someone just leave. Or get another job. A lot of these stories are, 'they were mean to me, but I didn't want to say anything because other people from the community might not like me anymore'. And coming out years after the fact.










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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2022, 07:34:17 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

Well, that's the thing... If you work in the 'real world' and you get screwed over you learn and just deal with it. The people I've real sympathy for here are the freelancers who did the work and never got a penny (allegedly).

Thats one of the sketchy parts of this whole drama saga: when do people get paid

Now i read on one of the discord screenshots that folks were asking to be paid BEFORE their edits and changes were approved.  Just by turning in your draft doesnt mean you get paid then and there.   Contracts and terms do exist for a reason and you dont get paid for garbage, unusable ,gibberish text. Not paying people post edit and after requesting an invoice? Scummy

That part these folk have to understand you are writing RPG material not to get rich but because you enjoy doing the work and seeing the result.

The internet is making this molehill into a mountain.  At least bring us more popcorn.
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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2022, 07:42:33 AM »

Thats one of the sketchy parts of this whole drama saga: when do people get paid


That's definitely my main issue... I can't speak from a writer's perspective. But in terms of art, I won't scratch my ball sack without getting at least 50% upfront. Because if you get shafted then at least you've got something for it.

Of course, if anything goes wrong and the client doesn't pay in full (for whatever reason), you tell all your mates and the word gets around. I'd never go on Twatter and cry like a thirteen-year-old, but that's just me.

But please keep up the pop corn.  ;D




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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2022, 07:56:12 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

Well, that's the thing... If you work in the 'real world' and you get screwed over you learn and just deal with it. The people I've real sympathy for here are the freelancers who did the work and never got a penny (allegedly).

  Getting robbed is one thing, but the majority of complaints I see are they dealt with shitty people/the job sucked.  I think a few weeks of being a laborer on a brick laying crew would do a shitload for those people's perspective.

Yeah, but it's 2022 man we've got to all 'do better'.

The funny thing is if you're being treated badly by someone just leave. Or get another job. A lot of these stories are, 'they were mean to me, but I didn't want to say anything because other people from the community might not like me anymore'. And coming out years after the fact.

  Dead on.  I just do not get the internet complaints.  When I first heard about this, I thought I would be reading a story where they drugged and raped people in a torture dungeon.  It seems they were just assholes.  Do kids today never encounter an asshole growing up?

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2022, 08:14:39 AM »
What are odds that they'll live stream their divorce at Gencon?

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2022, 08:34:04 AM »

  Dead on.  I just do not get the internet complaints.  When I first heard about this, I thought I would be reading a story where they drugged and raped people in a torture dungeon.  It seems they were just assholes.  Do kids today never encounter an asshole growing up?

No they don't as that entire generation is raised on participation trophies, social media, and "EVERYONE IS A WINNER!" mentality.  Good times create weak people.

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What are odds that they'll live stream their divorce at Gencon?

0 as Stone will be banned from the Gencon property due to "Threats of Violence" or "Security for Guests" same excuse they banned The Quartering and other for: Wrong Think.

I'll put money they won't get divorced, the redemption arc is too profitable to pass up and they can sell their "Recovery" to others.  Divorce lets the vipers feast further, there's money to made in Hearts and Tears.
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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2022, 08:37:14 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

Well, that's the thing... If you work in the 'real world' and you get screwed over you learn and just deal with it. The people I've real sympathy for here are the freelancers who did the work and never got a penny (allegedly).

  Getting robbed is one thing, but the majority of complaints I see are they dealt with shitty people/the job sucked.  I think a few weeks of being a laborer on a brick laying crew would do a shitload for those people's perspective.

Yeah, but it's 2022 man we've got to all 'do better'.

The funny thing is if you're being treated badly by someone just leave. Or get another job. A lot of these stories are, 'they were mean to me, but I didn't want to say anything because other people from the community might not like me anymore'. And coming out years after the fact.
So it's just more high school bullshit. Some people never move past it.

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Re: Satine & Stone are Naughty
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2022, 08:38:15 AM »
  I think all these people with their horror stories should go work for a few weeks on a construction site.  I think that might help them with perspective.

Well, that's the thing... If you work in the 'real world' and you get screwed over you learn and just deal with it. The people I've real sympathy for here are the freelancers who did the work and never got a penny (allegedly).

  Getting robbed is one thing, but the majority of complaints I see are they dealt with shitty people/the job sucked.  I think a few weeks of being a laborer on a brick laying crew would do a shitload for those people's perspective.

Yeah, but it's 2022 man we've got to all 'do better'.

The funny thing is if you're being treated badly by someone just leave. Or get another job. A lot of these stories are, 'they were mean to me, but I didn't want to say anything because other people from the community might not like me anymore'. And coming out years after the fact.

  Dead on.  I just do not get the internet complaints.  When I first heard about this, I thought I would be reading a story where they drugged and raped people in a torture dungeon.  It seems they were just assholes.  Do kids today never encounter an asshole growing up?
Sure they encounter them. And from what I've heard, they eat them these days.