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Ryan Dancey interview on CCP

Started by ggroy, November 07, 2009, 10:45:39 PM

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ggroy

#15
November 08, 2009, 06:09:19 PM
Sounds like the bankers that totally destroyed Wall St. over the last few years.

jrients

#16
November 08, 2009, 08:24:41 PM
Quote from: Drohem;342721Apparently, he did some sketchy stuff concerning GAMA.  Darren Johnson talks about it in his blog here.

Yeah.  That anyone gives him the time of day after that fiasco continues to bug the hell out of me.
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ggroy

#17
November 08, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: jrients;342742Yeah.  That anyone gives him the time of day after that fiasco continues to bug the hell out of me.

It's always entertaining watching a slow motion trainwreck in action.  ;)

David R

#18
November 08, 2009, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: jrients;342742Yeah.  That anyone gives him the time of day after that fiasco continues to bug the hell out of me.

Well the Pundit did, until Dancey broke his little heart.

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David R

DeadUematsu

#19
November 08, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
Quote from: David R;342754Well the Pundit did, until Dancey broke his little heart.

Regards,
David R

Huh?
 

David R

#20
November 08, 2009, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: DeadUematsu;342755Huh?

http://rpgpundit.xanga.com/610089654/item/

Regards,
David R

RPGObjects_chuck

#21
November 08, 2009, 10:00:59 PM
Isn't Dancey also the guy who, as a consultant for Fantasy Flight, advised them to get out of RPGs altogether, advice they followed for awhile?

Peregrin

#22
November 08, 2009, 11:26:59 PM Last Edit: November 08, 2009, 11:30:03 PM by Peregrin
From what I gather it's mostly accounting/web/other random positions that are being shifted closer to CCP.  White-Wolf as we know them are still around.

From Russel Bailey over at RPGnet:
QuoteThe thread Andrew linked to contains more information, but the short answer is that nearly everyone who was with the company at the time of the merger still is, new people (like Joseph Carriker, Eddy Webb and me) have been hired and are still here, and a number of old White Wolfers who had drifted away over the years are back on staff.

We're still here, nobody's been laid off, nothing's happened that I didn't know about in 2007.

...

White Wolf has always used mainly freelance writers and artists. We're not using any larger a percentage of freelance labor than we have in the past. Books are still developed and art directed by the same people who have been doing them for the last several years. Those people are still on staff.

Ryan's referring in an unusual way to the fact that many people (accounting, operations, web and so on) are now part of larger teams within CCP rather than being dedicated White Wolf staff.
Link for anyone who actually cares:
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=482416&page=2
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aramis

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November 09, 2009, 01:32:54 AM Last Edit: November 09, 2009, 01:44:36 AM by aramis
Quote from: Ian Absentia;342706Like I said, "For the time being..."Too true about that.  I hope Greg was more tight-fisted about retaining the rights this time around.

!i!

Nope. He didn't have them, and he's a licensee... he owns only the products he's written after GPC. And that's only because he's self-published BoKaL and BoM.

RPGPundit

#24
November 09, 2009, 01:48:14 PM
I really hope Greg manages to get those rights back somehow, or Pendragon is given the treatment it deserves.

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#25
November 09, 2009, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;342843I really hope Greg manages to get those rights back somehow, or Pendragon is given the treatment it deserves.

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It's a shame to see this happen to games like Pendragon, but to be fair, it's been around for ages now and there are many editions to pick up used on the cheap. What other properties did White Wolf snap up?

arminius

#26
November 09, 2009, 02:53:58 PM
Reasonably up-to-date info on getting Pendragon reprinted (though probably lacking some behind-the-scenes nitty-gritty) is at http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=478052

For some reason the White Wolf dude says there's an obstacle which DrivethruRPG might be able to solve.

Ian Absentia

#27
November 09, 2009, 05:17:16 PM
Good lord, that was a groan-worthy thread.  From seeing that WW was not in communication with Greg regarding the status of Pendragon, to witnessing the obligatory RPG.net dick-sucking.  Greg's comment about chasing the game from Chaosium to Green Knight to WW is almost heartbreaking.

!i!

brettmb

#28
November 09, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
How did Pendragon land in White Wolf's hands anyway? Why did it leave Chaosium?

Ian Absentia

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November 09, 2009, 06:06:50 PM Last Edit: November 09, 2009, 06:10:47 PM by Ian Absentia
Quote from: brettmb;342868How did Pendragon land in White Wolf's hands anyway? Why did it leave Chaosium?
In very brief terms:
  • Chaosium owned the rights to the game, even after Greg left the company in the mid-90s.  They fell on hard times as a result of the CCG/Wizard's Attic fiasco of the late '90s and needed an infusion of cash.
  • Peter Corliss agreed to buy the game from Chaosium, formed Green Knight to publish the 4th edition, and had a pretty good go at it for a couple of years.
  • Waning profits and inertia led Green Knight to a point where they were willing to give up the game.  Enter White Wolf/Arthaus.
  • WW arranged to have Greg Stafford retool a new, definitive, 5th edition of the game, but the rights belong to them.
I'm sure there are more details that others can insert, and possibly reorganise, but that's the picture in broad strokes.

!i!
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