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RPG.net Pre-Emptively Bans Discussion of My New Game, Ascendant!

Started by amacris, March 03, 2020, 01:01:05 PM

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SirBercelak

I've never backed a Kickstarter faster. The $1 billion stretch goal really sold it to me.

Jokes aside, I'm actually quite intrigued by what you've made. It seems to hit all the right spots for my engineering mind with the mathematics, and yet still engender the creative juices to start flowing. It's always a bummer to find an RPG system that seems cool on the outside, but then is easily broken in half by anyone who tests its limits merely because the designers didn't account it. This looks to hit the right amount of crunch for me, so I'm excited to read, run, and play the final product!

remial

I backed it even before I saw that TBP hates you.  can I suggest that at half a billion you burn rpg.net to the ground and salt the earth as a warning to others?

because if THAT were a stretch goal I'd start selling body parts to get you more money.  some of them might even be mine!

RandyB

Quote from: remial;1123442I backed it even before I saw that TBP hates you.  can I suggest that at half a billion you burn rpg.net to the ground and salt the earth as a warning to others?

because if THAT were a stretch goal I'd start selling body parts to get you more money.  some of them might even be mine!

Stealth goal. How do you think he will be prepared to be Batman at a billion?

Ghostmaker

The radleft is definitely getting twitchy over being hit with defamation lawsuits.

Sure, there's the endlessly dragging on Vic Mignogna versus various gormless halfwits lawsuit. But Sandmann wrenched a settlement out of CNN and his lawsuits against NBC, et. al. are still pending. Gibson's Bakery won theirs against Oberlin College and while Oberlin wastes time flailing around, the interest on their payout continues to stack up (they got lucky too; tort payouts are limited under a state law pushed by Republicans. Irony...). Don't know how the Meyer vs Waid lawsuit is going -- anyone heard anything new?

And of course, though it's still in the early phases, you have Tulsi Gabbard dropping a defamation suit on Hillary Clinton herself.

Lesson: if you're going to lob incendiary charges and accusations, maybe you need to be able to back them up.

OK, that being said, I'm intrigued enough by this to take a look at the KS when I get home. I like superhero-genre games :)

Mordred Pendragon

I'm definitely backing this because fuck RPG.net and all their punk culture SJW commie bullshit nonsense!
Sic Semper Tyrannis

Mordred Pendragon

I'm definitely backing this game.

Fuck RPG.net and all their pretentious SJW bullshit nonsense!
Sic Semper Tyrannis

rgalex

The game looks interesting.  I'm keeping an eye on it for now, but chances my group will try a supers game that isn't M&M are slim.

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1123460Don't know how the Meyer vs Waid lawsuit is going -- anyone heard anything new?

It's still ongoing.  Wade's lawyers are dragging it out as long as they can.  They finally know what charges are going to be allowed in Texas and have a court date.  I think it's set for Spring of 2021.  Yep, it's getting dragged out another whole year before actually starting.  Meyer reopened his Patreon for anyone willing to help defer some of the costs.

amacris

For those who've been following the Kickstarter, I just updated it with a lengthy panel-by-panel writeup of combat.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/autarch/ascendant/posts/2778530

ponta1010

Quote from: amacris;1123642For those who've been following the Kickstarter, I just updated it with a lengthy panel-by-panel writeup of combat.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/autarch/ascendant/posts/2778530

Is it just me that worries about the collateral damage that occurs when the hero approaches at Mach 23?
I just wanna fight some fuckin' dragons! Is that too much to ask? - Ghostmaker

amacris

No, not at all! I actually wrote tons of rules available to address what happens but most people don't care, so I didn't go into it.

E.g...

1 SP: 25% of unprotected personnel are wounded. 67% of vehicles and buildings have minor damage such as broken windows.
2 SP: 35% of unprotected personnel are wounded. All small vehicles are lightly damaged. All other vehicles and all buildings have minor damage such as broken windows.
3 SPs: 50% of unprotected personnel are wounded. All small vehicles are lightly damaged. All other vehicles and all buildings have minor damage such as broken windows.
4 SPs: 2% of unprotected personnel are dead, 10% are unconscious, and 55% are wounded. All small vehicles are moderately damaged while all large or huge vehicles and all buildings are lightly damaged.
5 SPs: 3% of unprotected personnel are dead, 20% are unconscious, and the remainder are wounded. All small vehicles are moderately damaged while all large or huge vehicles and all buildings are lightly damaged.
6 SPs: 35% of unprotected personnel are dead, 40% are unconscious, and the rest are wounded. All small vehicles are heavily damaged. Large vehicles are moderately damaged. Huge vehicles, small buildings, and large buildings are lightly damaged.
7 SPs: 55% of unprotected personnel are dead and the rest are unconscious. All small vehicles are wrecked. Large vehicles are moderately damaged. Huge vehicles, small buildings, and large buildings are lightly damaged.
8 SPs: 98% of unprotected personnel are dead. All small and medium vehicles are wrecked (0 Durability), while large vehicles are heavily damaged. All small buildings are moderately damaged while large buildings are lightly damaged.
9 SPs: All unprotected personnel are dead. All small and medium vehicles are completely destroyed. All large vehicles are wrecked. All huge vehicles and small buildings are heavily damaged. All large buildings are moderately damaged.
10 SPs: All unprotected personnel are dead. All small and large vehicles are completely destroyed; even huge vehicles are wrecked. All small buildings are partially collapsed and uninhabitable. All large buildings are heavily damaged. Large naval vessels such as yachts are have hull breaches and take in water.
11-12 SPs: All unprotected personnel are dead, their bodies unrecognizable except by dental records. All small buildings are flattened while all large buildings are extremely damaged. Small, large, and even huge vehicles are completely destroyed. Large naval vessels are blasted apart and immediately begin to sink.
13-14 SPs: All unprotected personnel are reduced to cremated ashes. All small buildings and all vehicles are utterly destroyed. All large buildings are partially collapsed and uninhabitable. If the buildings are skyscrapers, they are visibly falling apart and in imminent danger of toppling over.
15-16 SPs: All small buildings are reduced to dust and fragments. All large buildings are flattened. If the buildings are skyscrapers, they collapse in a freefalling tower of fire and dust.
17-18 SPs: All modern buildings are flattened. Sturdy medieval castles and cathedrals are moderately damaged. Huge naval vessels such as carriers, cruiser liners, and container ships have hull breaches and take in water.
19-20 SPs: All modern buildings of any size are flattened, and their rubble strewn as dust and fragments everywhere. Sturdy medieval castles and cathedrals are partially collapsed and uninhabitable. Huge naval vessels are blasted apart and immediately begin to sink.
21-22 SPs: Even the sturdiest medieval castles and cathedrals are flattened into fragments of scorched and burned rock. Modern buildings are utterly reduced to dust. Huge naval vessels are reduced to molten slag that boils the sea. Personnel leave behind shadow-like silhouettes.
23 SPs or more: The 3-million-ton Great Pyramid of Giza is reduced to ash and cinder. So is everything else.

So an 18 SP impact would be a big deal.

Toadmaster

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1123348It was banned because they're afraid of being sued for defamation. The moderators know that posters won't be able to resist calling him a nazi, so they don't want to risk it.

If only the mods had the ability to kick people off the site for saying things that are against the rules like making personal attacks...

ponta1010

Quote from: amacris;11236529 SPs: All unprotected personnel are dead. All small and medium vehicles are completely destroyed. All large vehicles are wrecked. All huge vehicles and small buildings are heavily damaged. All large buildings are moderately damaged.......

17-18 SPs: All modern buildings are flattened. Sturdy medieval castles and cathedrals are moderately damaged. Huge naval vessels such as carriers, cruiser liners, and container ships have hull breaches and take in water.

So an 18 SP impact would be a big deal.

So not only did he cause major damage to a downtown Atlanta, killed an unknown number of bystanders and office-workers (presumably in the buildings) but he also killed the NPC!

How does this play out?
Missing out on hero points, is listed as one prescribed outcome, presumably the rest is up to the GM(?) or are there any Ascendant setting details that come into play? For example the government sponsored superheroes were to disappear in "The Incredibles" movie.

It seems to me that unleashing your strongest move is bound to kill someone if they're a glass cannon. What options were available to the player use their power at a lower level?
I just wanna fight some fuckin' dragons! Is that too much to ask? - Ghostmaker

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Toadmaster;1123685If only the mods had the ability to kick people off the site for saying things that are against the rules like making personal attacks...

That's not exactly the problem they had. People talk smack all the time. And, as you say, they can be ejected for stepping over the line (they threadbanned and temp-banned one guy for talking bad about Monte Cook).

The problem was that you had official moderators for RPG.net saying these things, without reprimand. Which could be construed as site policy.

It's not too dissimilar IMO (I'm not a lawyer, so take with a big bag of salt) from what burned Oberlin College during Gibson's lawsuit. It wasn't that Oberlin students were protesting, it was that Oberlin was aiding and abetting them and letting them use college resources.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1123716That's not exactly the problem they had. People talk smack all the time. And, as you say, they can be ejected for stepping over the line (they threadbanned and temp-banned one guy for talking bad about Monte Cook).

The problem was that you had official moderators for RPG.net saying these things, without reprimand. Which could be construed as site policy.

  In theory, mods are subject to the same rules as everyone else and are picked as sterling examples of RPGNet participants. In practice ... well ...

  But that arguably just makes the situation worse if the admins won't stop them. Apparently they decided a blanket shutdown of discussion was easier--which would be fine, but I'm getting a little tired of the way they make themselves purely the victim every time the topic comes up.