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Author Topic: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)  (Read 4353 times)

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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2020, 03:29:41 PM »
It seems to me based on social media posts and having gone to any number of 'cons over the years, that there is a noticeable number of cross- or trans- folks.
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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2020, 11:29:28 AM »
Not sure your objective, but this is tantamount to asking us to #Deadname people, which doesn't help anyone's case.
The people we are talking about aren't dead.  And names can be forgotten, but they can't die.  So the concept of "deadnaming" is horsecrap.

That's... not what that means.

The idea is that some people don't want to be linked to their other monikers, often for reasons of safety, and shouldn't have to be unless they need to be held accountable for the actions taken under them. And given how defensive ThePudit is about their names I'm sure they'd agree.

Because a disproportionate number of people in this field fit that definition when compared to other fields, and it's worth inquiring as to why that is.
Do you mean on the low or high side?

High. Much higher than any other industry I know of.

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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2020, 02:14:07 PM »
Not sure your objective, but this is tantamount to asking us to #Deadname people, which doesn't help anyone's case.
The people we are talking about aren't dead.  And names can be forgotten, but they can't die.  So the concept of "deadnaming" is horsecrap.

That's... not what that means.

The idea is that some people don't want to be linked to their other monikers, often for reasons of safety, and shouldn't have to be unless they need to be held accountable for the actions taken under them. And given how defensive ThePudit is about their names I'm sure they'd agree.

If you've put one name on products you've produced, and are now using a new name for new products, I'm not sure how you would avoid having this discussed online. It's useful to know, for example that if you got a copy of Monsterhearts 1st ed the author listed is Joe MacDonald, and if you get Monsterhearts 2nd edition, the author is Avery Alder, and this is the same person.

I've never met Avery, but we've exchanged some emails, books and funds since I sell both Monsterhearts 2nd, and The Quite Year on the CDG RPG Marketplace I run. (Prices set it $CAD funds so it tends to be cheaper. You can switch the currency at the top if you want to use USD or another currency.)

I really dig The Quite Year, it's a great 3000-foot view one-session map-drawing story game. I've enjoyed playing Monsterhearts at a convention or two, but I don't think it's something I'd run.

Because a disproportionate number of people in this field fit that definition when compared to other fields, and it's worth inquiring as to why that is.
Do you mean on the low or high side?

High. Much higher than any other industry I know of.

All we really have to go on here is anecdotal info I imagine. It does make sense that fringe hobbies may attract individuals struggling to find acceptance, and perhaps even the nature of our games where you get to try out being someone else, but that is pure conjecture.

I've been to 2-6 game conventions a year for the past decade or so (mostly in Ontario I admit, but also UK Games Expo, GenCon and Origins). I run at least 4 sessions. To my knowledge I've had 1 gamer sit at my table who was trans. That doesn't mean that there weren't ones I was unaware of though :)

Cons certainly have gone through . . . flamewars . . . over revising and creating policy to make "everyone feel welcome." At least one has taken to the point where it actually becomes a little uncomfortable to be straight, white and male.

Still, while it may feel more prevalent, I'm not convinced that it is much higher than other industries.
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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2020, 05:01:41 PM »

That's... not what that means.


No kidding.  That's my point.  The proponents of normalization of this mental illness have invented a portmanteau word that is logically and definitionally incoherent, for the primary purpose of obfuscating the real meaning.  The actual meaning trends more in the direction of not wanting to be reminded of their birth-sex, for reasons of "mental harm" that approach the histrionic, narcissistic definition of "harm" presented in the "Sword Lesbians" thread.


The idea is that some people don't want to be linked to their other monikers, often for reasons of safety...

Gonna need to see your statistics and methodology on that claim.  And no, "I don't feel safe" is not evidence of an actual threat.  Maybe evidence that multiple mental illnesses tend to clump together...

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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2020, 08:49:09 PM »
I...don't really keep track?
And I'm not really sure it matters to me, personally.
If Bob now wants me to call him Bobbi and use female pronouns, I'm not put out doing that for her.
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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2020, 01:55:16 AM »
The answer is Zero since men cannot become women (or vice versa).

But its America so they're free to play pretend. Transvestites aren't new and we didn't join in their delusions when they decided to prance around in dresses.

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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2020, 09:46:46 AM »
I...don't really keep track?
And I'm not really sure it matters to me, personally.
If Bob now wants me to call him Bobbi and use female pronouns, I'm not put out doing that for her.

It's not something I would normally follow. In the instance I mentioned above they made the announcement about the transition as part of a Kickstarter Update on their project I backed. 

I think the info can be useful.  If I like their previous work I want to know to look for the new name instead of just assuming they stopped working in the industry altogether.

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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2020, 09:05:55 PM »
If you've put one name on products you've produced, and are now using a new name for new products, I'm not sure how you would avoid having this discussed online. It's useful to know, for example that if you got a copy of Monsterhearts 1st ed the author listed is Joe MacDonald, and if you get Monsterhearts 2nd edition, the author is Avery Alder, and this is the same person.

You'd think that, yet I've seen authors lose their shit from people using their 'old' name to refer to their previous work. I'm pretty sure Avery wouldn't, but they're also an anomaly in the #SJW field, not least of which because they won't throw their friends to the wolves to meet the demands of the mob.

The problem I have is when people use accusations of #Deadnaming to prevent anyone from holding them accountable for their previous toxic behavior, and then hide behind the transition or avoid accountability for anything in the future.

All we really have to go on here is anecdotal info I imagine.

It's all anecdotal, which is why nothing ever gets resolved and everyone always has enough 'evidence' to justify their current paranoia. And the only real evidence we have are the actions taken based on anecdotal evidence.

The idea is that some people don't want to be linked to their other monikers, often for reasons of safety...
Gonna need to see your statistics and methodology on that claim.  And no, "I don't feel safe" is not evidence of an actual threat.

Well I never said their reasons were sound, though doxxing has become increasingly dangerous. Regardless I appreciate this kind of accountability, and since I do not have a set of rigorous statistics and methodology to support this conclusion I'll withdraw it.

I'd ask ThePundit then why they're so touchy about people using their given name. I mean do they consider doing that to be harmful in itself?

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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2020, 06:17:17 AM »
Oh, just remembered. John S. Berry III, author of Hulks and Horrors and a few other things, now goes by Annaia Danvers. So my count is 2(maybe 3) game authors & 4 players that I personally gamed with. Am I winning?
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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2021, 10:41:09 PM »
Russell/Rose Bailey with Onyx Path
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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2021, 03:08:21 PM »
I can't say I pay any attention to this, so I have little to say. The only designer that comes to mind is Jaquays. I used various supplements and adventures authored under "Paul Jaquays" for years (and also played through some of the id software game levels that were Jaquays-designed). I met and gamed with Paul at some conventions, before the name change to Jennell. We haven't had any interaction since then, as I haven't been to any cons in some time.
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Re: RPG Designer Dudes that are Now Women (how many?)
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2021, 11:01:38 PM »
From a truly scientific perspective; no one can change their DNA.  A dress, some makeup, and an operation do not suddenly turn a man into a woman.

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