I too, own both those products, and it's one thing we definitely agree on. CNM wasn't ready for publication due to both rushing an untested system to market and it's unresolved identity crisis. Neither of these did Fuzion, Hero or any of the people involved any good. Though I still wonder how it is that a company decided a course of action was in it's best interest, and yet they allowed people griping about what they wanted to change what they believed to be their best course? While there are certainly parallels with the woke and SJW crowd, I am not sure it is really trolling if the people are just telling the company what they would like to see. In fact, sounds like customer service. Or is it only trolling when it doesn't achieve the result you want? Seems that the staff at Hero rethought their position and decided on a different course of action (and right or wrong, that is their choice.) At the time I looked forward to a new Hero/Fuzion, but neither materialized in a playable way, so at least for most of us 5th Edition was the way forward. And I would submit, if I as a grognard bought Champions Now and yet was unwilling to try something new, why would I waste my money that way? You assume a lot about other people's motives, especially re: trolling, that perhaps aren't really accurate.