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Reviews of Old Games...

Started by KrakaJak, March 16, 2007, 09:43:27 PM

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Settembrini

Well put.

Although I´d argue that Ron´s essay was flawed on the side of facts (heavily so!), his general idea of contextualizing and reviewing different versions were laudable and made some people think, who weren´t aware of that.
If there can\'t be a TPK against the will of the players it\'s not an RPG.- Pierce Inverarity

lev_lafayette

Quote from: SettembriniAs you are the most ignorant type of person I´m putting you on ignore. You are actively taking away enjoyment from my internet endeavours.

Are you finding it hard to admit to being wrong?

QuoteYou bring up points, that have been refuted twenty, thirty years ago.
You are ignorant of discourse.
You are pretentious, in a way that isn´t refelecting upon it´s own pretentiousness = no self-criticism.

Nice set of assertions.

QuoteYou are not knowledgable about D&D (as proven time and time again, you didn´t even know what the RC was...), but continue to jump into discussions concerning D&D.

Actually I recently picked up the RC. For the previous three years I only had it as a PDF. My "ignorance" of D&D starts with playing D&D in 1981 in remaining in a campaign for a sometime thereafter, through B1, B2, B3, X1, X2, X3, X4, X5; and of course more than a few times after that.

QuoteYou are polite, but not in a good way. In a PC way, that really enrages me. You are a bigot-leftie that takes pride in being "on the side of reason" when you are actually only on the side of total and ridiculous wrongness.

Keep up with those assertions.

QuoteYou are condescending and patronizing to women.

Because I publically oppose expressions of misogyny.

QuoteYou are condescending and downright insulting to germans.

I'll ask my German partner of the last five years, shall I?

QuoteYou are comparing the holocaust to mysogynism, and feel elevated about it.
All that not with your flags up, but in a passive-aggressive way.

Hatred of women, hatred of Jews. What's the difference? Both are abhorrent.

QuoteYou are inviting other people to do the same. You are attacking the ideological foundations of theRPGSite.

ROFL!

QuoteYou´re just an asshole in such a way, that there are real world DMs out there, that don´t want to play with you.

Oh noes!

QuoteSo I wish all those people out there, that they will be spared having you as a player. And I wish this site would be spared your visits too.

I promise to post twice as much, just for you ;-)

QuoteYou are actively destroying western civilization by ignoring past debates. You are throwing us all back to the seventies. I can´t stand it no longer.

Just kill yourself then. It'll all go away ;-)

lev_lafayette

Quote from: MelanNo, in other words, don't build your review on abritrary definitions and faulty assumptions regarding the nature of roleplaying games.

I review games on the basis of their capacity to provide gamist challenges, simulation models and narrative construction. I think this is quite reasonable, because that is, in my opinion, is what helps generate interesting and fun play in a game system or scenario. In my experience, people do not like game experiences where the challenges are non-existent or too difficult, where the experience requires too many suspensions of disbelief, or when there is no story to speak of.

Quote"Single unit wargame" and "chess with dice" - these two statements of yours adequately encapsulate what is wrong with your method.

No, those comments are critical of truncuated view of roleplaying. "Chess with dice" and "single unit wargames" are perfectly OK - but they are limited. I have an expansive view which rates highly those texts which provide a multi-layered approach which satisfy different desires in play.

One Horse Town

Quote from: KrakaJakSo, here's the question. Would you want/care if older games were reviewed? If they were, would you read them?

Yep, they're useful. I'm not a reviewer myself, but i think the tone of a review is very important. The very nature of the beast means that it's subjective, so avoid posting your thoughts as 'facts'. Reviews replete with 'facts' can be pretty hard going to read and can be far from universal, in many cases. What's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander.

Pierce Inverarity

As a German and an ultra-left-wing loony, let me just state here for the record that the fact that I think Lev is a mendacious little internet weasel has nothing to do with either my nationality or my political convictions.
Ich habe mir schon sehr lange keine Gedanken mehr über Bleistifte gemacht.--Settembrini

Dr Rotwang!

Yeah, that's great.  Who'd like to see a review of TSR's old Conan game?
Dr Rotwang!
...never blogs faster than he can see.
FONZITUDE RATING: 1985
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Pierce Inverarity

I'm partial to Indiana Jones, myself. Just crack open the Diana Jones trophy, and review it.
Ich habe mir schon sehr lange keine Gedanken mehr über Bleistifte gemacht.--Settembrini

The Good Assyrian

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Yeah, that's great.  Who'd like to see a review of TSR's old Conan game?

[Arnold Horschack]Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! I would like to hear about the old Conan RPG, Mr. Kotter...[/Arnold Horschack]



TGA
 

Nazgul

Quote from: Pierce InverarityAs a German and an ultra-left-wing loony, let me just state here for the record that the fact that I think Lev is a mendacious little internet weasel has nothing to do with either my nationality or my political convictions.

You only say that because you only look at the pictures. :p
Abyssal Maw:

I mean jesus. It's a DUNGEON. You're supposed to walk in there like you own the place, busting down doors and pushing over sarcophagi lids and stuff. If anyone dares step up, you set off fireballs.

Melan

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Yeah, that's great.  Who'd like to see a review of TSR's old Conan game?
Me. All I've heard of it points towards "crapulent", but I heard it has a fun rule about obsession for evil spellcasters, which may be very appropriate for a game set in Hyboria.
Now with a Zine!
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David R

Quote from: SettembriniYou are actively destroying western civilization by ignoring past debates. You are throwing us all back to the seventies. I can´t stand it no longer.

Is this an example of this :

QuoteYou lack any rhetorical balls.

:raise:

Regards,
David R

KrakaJak

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Yeah, that's great.  Who'd like to see a review of TSR's old Conan game?
me...I don't have it, so I can't review it.
-Jak
 
 "Be the person you want to be, at the expense of everything."
Spreading Un-Common Sense since 1983

Dr Rotwang!

Quote from: KrakaJakme...I don't have it, so I can't review it.
Ah, my good pugilistic friend -- I do, and can!  Further, I might!

Ha!  Ha ha!  Ha!
Dr Rotwang!
...never blogs faster than he can see.
FONZITUDE RATING: 1985
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lev_lafayette

Quote from: Pierce InverarityAs a German and an ultra-left-wing loony,

I really won't hold that against you. :D

Quotelet me just state here for the record that the fact that I think Lev is a mendacious

It's naughty to use words you don't know the meaning of.

Quote..little internet weasel has nothing to do with either my nationality or my political convictions.

Dude, that's a hedgehog (a NZ one at that), not a weasel.... :D

KrakaJak

Why do I fell like a fight from next door has come spilling over onto my lawn?


Lev, David, Sett, pierce, learn to use PM's and/or keep your bickering on topic!


....
so, what should I review next, RIFTS or Demon: the Fallen?
-Jak
 
 "Be the person you want to be, at the expense of everything."
Spreading Un-Common Sense since 1983