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Returning to RPGs after a decade

Started by Franko77, April 22, 2020, 01:24:35 PM

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Eirikrautha

#15
April 25, 2020, 11:08:11 AM Last Edit: April 25, 2020, 11:09:00 AM by Eirikrautha
Quote from: Premier;1127684Personally, I would not recommend Starfinder. It's a sci-fi version of Pathfinder, which in turn is a serial-numbers-filed-off version of the 3.5th edition of D&D - which, from an old-school D&D fan perspective, was a pile of shit. It was rules-heavy, cumbersome, bogged down in a "character building" system with literally hundreds of Prestige Classes, feats and other shit you don't need, and both the rules and the surrounding game culture were solidly against any sort of creativity and all for doing everything by the numbers. Based on your post above I really don't think you'd enjoy something like that.

I wholeheartedly second this opinion.  Starfinder is crunchier than dry cornflakes sprinkled over cracker-jacks.  Avoid.

My group is just starting a campaign of Slipstream, which is a setting for Savage Worlds.  It's medium crunch, mostly during character creation, and is very pulp Flash Gordon style.  If you are looking for hard scifi, it won't really work (though Savage Worlds does have some settings like that: the Last Parsec, for example), it really scratches that pulp action itch, which is Savage Worlds's main wheelhouse.

Razor 007

#16
April 25, 2020, 08:53:33 PM
Quote from: Razor 007;1127834Dungeon Crawl Classics is one huge book full of good stuff.  You don't need to purchase anything else, except for an exotic set of dice.  There is also a phone app that negates the need for the special dice, but buy the dice.  They are a very cool item.  It's a throwback to how unique AD&D and polyhedral dice were long ago.


Quoting my own post.....

I wouldn't jump into DCC without the intent of running a campaign of some duration.  It's an awesome rule set, but it's too much of a buy in for just a couple of sessions.  It's worthy of more devotion than that.

I'd want something half as robust, if it was only for a few sessions.
I need you to roll a perception check.....

Premier

#17
April 26, 2020, 06:58:16 AM
Quote from: Shasarak;1127830Don't want to sell you anything, you just need to dial down your TDS a notch.

I voice an opinion that you personally happen to disagree with, you attack me for it with a post in which you misrepresent what I said - and then you compare me to a right-winger. That's rich.
Obvious troll is obvious. RIP, Bill.

Franko77

#18
April 27, 2020, 11:45:04 AM
Wow, this escalated a little.

But back to the games! The consensus is that we try Ashen Stars, just to see how it goes. Thanks for all the recommendations - there's enough here to keep us going for quite some time! I think we're also going to give World War Cthulhu: Cold War a go as well at some point, as that sounds quite fun.

Cheers!
Franko

Ratman_tf

#19
April 27, 2020, 12:04:03 PM
Quote from: Franko77;1128037Wow, this escalated a little.

That's our schtick. ;)
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Itachi

#20
April 27, 2020, 01:18:01 PM Last Edit: April 27, 2020, 01:26:08 PM by Itachi
OP: I want something rules light or medium.

Someone: Starfinder.



Come on folks, try to at least pay attention to what the OP wrote.

To the OP: the latest fad in the industry seems to be games that are simple to pick up and play, and very thematic. OSR and PbtA being two popular "engines" based on this. For sci-fi/fantasy in this mold I recommend Mothership and Blades in the Dark. The first being an Alien-like space horror, the second a Dishonored (the videogame) inspired heist game mixing a Victorian setting with supernatural and scientific trappings.

oggsmash

#21
April 27, 2020, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: Premier;1127926I voice an opinion that you personally happen to disagree with, you attack me for it with a post in which you misrepresent what I said - and then you compare me to a right-winger. That's rich.

   I could be wrong, but I thought TDS was a left wing ailment?

Ratman_tf

#22
April 27, 2020, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: Itachi;1128043OP: I want something rules light or medium.

Someone: Starfinder.



Come on folks, try to at least pay attention to what the OP wrote.

Quote from: Franko77;1127530(although, we're very much open to any and all recommendations.

Right back atcha, chief.

Personally, I'd consider 3/Pathfinder/Starfinder rules medium. YMMV.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Ratman_tf

#23
April 27, 2020, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash;1128054I could be wrong, but I thought TDS was a left wing ailment?

I don't know what Trump has to do with any of this.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Premier

#24
April 27, 2020, 03:20:46 PM
I've seen "D" as both "defender" and "derangement", and sadly enough both intepretation sound reasonable enough.
Obvious troll is obvious. RIP, Bill.

Shasarak

#25
April 27, 2020, 10:20:18 PM
Since I started this little mess let me clarify, in this case TDS is Third edition Derangement Syndrome the symptoms of which are very similar to the other more famous TDS including the ability to see and complain about things which are not actually there.

For example the ability to see "Prestige Classes" in Starfinder.
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pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Franko77

#26
April 28, 2020, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: Itachi;1128043OP: I want something rules light or medium.

Someone: Starfinder.



Come on folks, try to at least pay attention to what the OP wrote.

To the OP: the latest fad in the industry seems to be games that are simple to pick up and play, and very thematic. OSR and PbtA being two popular "engines" based on this. For sci-fi/fantasy in this mold I recommend Mothership and Blades in the Dark. The first being an Alien-like space horror, the second a Dishonored (the videogame) inspired heist game mixing a Victorian setting with supernatural and scientific trappings.

Blades in the Dark certainly sounds very interesting, I'll need to check that out in more detail, as I know that at least two members of our group would be really into something like that. Seems a little bit like the old UK RPG a|state from the early 2000s. It had a great setting, but the percentile system was really clunky and brought the game down a lot.

Cheers,
Franko

Ghostmaker

#27
April 28, 2020, 10:17:33 AM
Sadly, I must add my voice to those who are not recommending Starfinder. My group is wrapping up the Dead Suns AP, and my impression of the game is that it did NOT get a lot of playtesting. It feels VERY clunky, even compared to Pathfinder, and there seem to be critical elements missing both crunch and RP wise.

Needless to say, I'm looking forward to the next campaign, which will either be Savage Worlds Rifts, or PF1E.

Brad

#28
April 28, 2020, 10:24:07 AM
Fantastic Heroes and Witchery
http://www.dcrouzet.net/heroes-witchery/?page_id=79

Kitchen sink approach, can be played as high fantasy, swords and sorcery, B/X-style, pulp, sci-fi, or whatever. Mechanically easy as hell, on the level of B/X with some 3.X D&D thrown in for skills. This game doesn't get recommended enough.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Garry G

#29
April 28, 2020, 06:57:47 PM
Quote from: Franko77;1127638Thanks for all the recommendations - we'll certainly give some of those a shot. Ashen Stars certainly sounds like a good bet for the kind of stuff we want to do.

Cheers,
Franko

I'm glad to be of some help. Have a look at the Gumshoe system a bit first, I love it but it has a slightly different approach than the other systems people are talking about.
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