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Reddit gamers were mad they lost an easy means of pirating TTRPGs

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Ghostmaker:

--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:15:14 AM ---And that last part is why I don't have much sympathy for The Trove, because they would pirate from everybody, even the small developer selfpublishing.

The not being able to find old, out of print games tho...

Edited to add:

But Daniel didn't really kill the piracy nor The Trove, they will find a way to keep on going, torrents, The Bay, private groups somewhere. Like life, piracy finds a way.

--- End quote ---

It reminds me of the question of 'abandonware'. Is it piracy if it's not even being published and nobody's sure who owns the IP?

And IP law in the U.S. is a complete pile of shit, too. That doesn't help.

But yeah. Piracy goes on.

GeekyBugle:

--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 05, 2021, 11:21:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:15:14 AM ---And that last part is why I don't have much sympathy for The Trove, because they would pirate from everybody, even the small developer selfpublishing.

The not being able to find old, out of print games tho...

Edited to add:

But Daniel didn't really kill the piracy nor The Trove, they will find a way to keep on going, torrents, The Bay, private groups somewhere. Like life, piracy finds a way.

--- End quote ---

It reminds me of the question of 'abandonware'. Is it piracy if it's not even being published and nobody's sure who owns the IP?

And IP law in the U.S. is a complete pile of shit, too. That doesn't help.

But yeah. Piracy goes on.

--- End quote ---

Bold mine for emphasis.

You have Disney to thank for making it even worse.

Ghostmaker:

--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:23:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 05, 2021, 11:21:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:15:14 AM ---And that last part is why I don't have much sympathy for The Trove, because they would pirate from everybody, even the small developer selfpublishing.

The not being able to find old, out of print games tho...

Edited to add:

But Daniel didn't really kill the piracy nor The Trove, they will find a way to keep on going, torrents, The Bay, private groups somewhere. Like life, piracy finds a way.

--- End quote ---

It reminds me of the question of 'abandonware'. Is it piracy if it's not even being published and nobody's sure who owns the IP?

And IP law in the U.S. is a complete pile of shit, too. That doesn't help.

But yeah. Piracy goes on.

--- End quote ---

Bold mine for emphasis.

You have Disney to thank for making it even worse.

--- End quote ---
Pretty much. If you don't defend IPs ferociously, they slide right into the public domain. The ridiculous extensions Disney has gotten on their properties (via bribing congresscritters) just make it worse.

GeekyBugle:

--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 05, 2021, 11:25:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:23:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 05, 2021, 11:21:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:15:14 AM ---And that last part is why I don't have much sympathy for The Trove, because they would pirate from everybody, even the small developer selfpublishing.

The not being able to find old, out of print games tho...

Edited to add:

But Daniel didn't really kill the piracy nor The Trove, they will find a way to keep on going, torrents, The Bay, private groups somewhere. Like life, piracy finds a way.

--- End quote ---

It reminds me of the question of 'abandonware'. Is it piracy if it's not even being published and nobody's sure who owns the IP?

And IP law in the U.S. is a complete pile of shit, too. That doesn't help.

But yeah. Piracy goes on.

--- End quote ---

Bold mine for emphasis.

You have Disney to thank for making it even worse.

--- End quote ---
Pretty much. If you don't defend IPs ferociously, they slide right into the public domain. The ridiculous extensions Disney has gotten on their properties (via bribing congresscritters) just make it worse.

--- End quote ---

The worst part is that the IP lapses into public domain but you can still have a trademark on parts of it.

So if you want to make a John Carter anything you have to pay up to the author's state or be very careful not to infringe their trademarks.

Assume DC left Superman get into the public domain... You still wouldn't be able to use the costume in any shape or form. Unless you pay them thru the nose.

Which is why you have so many RPGs with the serial numbers filed off. Easier than paying what you don't have or to risk a lawsuit.

therealjcm:

--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:23:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 05, 2021, 11:21:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 05, 2021, 11:15:14 AM ---And that last part is why I don't have much sympathy for The Trove, because they would pirate from everybody, even the small developer selfpublishing.

The not being able to find old, out of print games tho...

Edited to add:

But Daniel didn't really kill the piracy nor The Trove, they will find a way to keep on going, torrents, The Bay, private groups somewhere. Like life, piracy finds a way.

--- End quote ---

It reminds me of the question of 'abandonware'. Is it piracy if it's not even being published and nobody's sure who owns the IP?

And IP law in the U.S. is a complete pile of shit, too. That doesn't help.

But yeah. Piracy goes on.

--- End quote ---

Bold mine for emphasis.

You have Disney to thank for making it even worse.

--- End quote ---

We can thank celebrity culture to some extent as well, for giving us Sonny "the congressman from Disney" Bono.

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