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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #195 on: July 23, 2021, 02:52:47 AM »
Well he's a ruthless unknown leader of a violent well armed secret terrorist army who mind controls extorts and murders and subverts and infiltrates at will but at least he doesn't superficially resemble an old racist organization's traditional anonymizing rumble gear...
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2021, 04:23:50 AM »
Sorry to drop in so late...

But after 14 pages, have any of you figured out how you're going to stop us? Is there a plan? Can I help?

I just feel really bad with all this hand wringing and no forward progress, ya know?
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #197 on: July 23, 2021, 06:09:55 AM »
Sorry to drop in so late...

But after 14 pages, have any of you figured out how you're going to stop us? Is there a plan? Can I help?

I just feel really bad with all this hand wringing and no forward progress, ya know?

Kind of you to offer. I'd say if you'd like to help, you can start with re-examining "Social Justice" with a critical mindset. We've talked about a ton of topics here, like this one.
As to the culture war, I think it's just got to grind on. You can't dispel decades of social conditioning all in a day.
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #198 on: July 23, 2021, 07:03:57 AM »
Thread title is a bit misleading, should be titled, "How do we avoid being dumped in mass graves alongside the SJWs"

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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #199 on: July 23, 2021, 11:43:32 AM »
Sorry to drop in so late...

But after 14 pages, have any of you figured out how you're going to stop us? Is there a plan? Can I help?

I just feel really bad with all this hand wringing and no forward progress, ya know?

Perhaps we need a real solution… a final solution









And before anyone freaks out that was a joke. So far I think our best bet is to create our own communities and games and gatekeep the hell out of them. Work in subtle messages like none woke artwork like the likes of Frazetta or all the cleavage and toxic masculinity they so despise. It’s one thing to not include woke bullshit, it’s another to actively subvert the woke talking points. Fantasy armor, social classes, ethnically taking into account people migration and travel. You know as late as wwii there were so few black people in Germany that the German government didn’t actually have a policy on where they fell in their camps and their court rulings were that it’ll have to be case by case because it would be a waste of time for all like 3 black dudes in the country.

So bring on chainmail bikinis, thicc witches, proper complexions and lords and ladies, the harlot table.

I think the message would be clear to those in the cult while remaining subtle enough that normies wouldn’t think twice about it. This strategy is right out of their playbook
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #200 on: July 23, 2021, 11:53:19 AM »
Go too far woke, and I'll do one of two things:

One, if your stuff is garbage I won't buy it.

Two, if your stuff is useful, I'll just pirate it.

You don't want my money, right? I'm just a racist shitlord, so I'm saving you the trouble of having to accept my filthy lucre either way.

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« Reply #201 on: July 23, 2021, 04:21:59 PM »
Folks, as my tag indicates I've been on this spinning mudball for over half a century.

"How do we stop the SJWs?"

Answer: you CANNOT.

The problem here is that SJWs are just mindless useful idiots. Yes they can bully and harass, but they are a symptom, not the disease.

I downloaded and watched Pundit's videos a number of times, and while he is right bringing up the names he does bring up- those rotten French "intellectuals"- he fails to mention the Death Star of leftism run amok: The Frankfurt School.

This was an evil institution that fled to America from Germany in the 1930's to escape Hitler's Nazi Germany. This is the source of most of the insane troublemaking theories we have to deal with today, including Postmodernism and of course Critical Theory, which is the real reason alignments have been removed from Dungeon and Dragons material like Ravenloft.

Keep that in mind: SJWs are merely cannon fodder for elites trying to ruin society. Classic Dungeons and Dragons was about Good vs. Evil, which means there had to be clear-cut evil to fight, thus there had to be a clear definition of good. This is a no-no, everything had to be relative (except for whatever the elites despise- those are absolutes), which is why the whole "issue" of transexuality suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

Because the elites have so much money and power their reach is extensive. This is why companies like Wizards of the Coast are not likely to change their tune anytime soon- has Marvel comics gotten the message in spite of the fact that NOBODY is buying their "woke" comics? It's no longer about making or losing money- we're past that point- it's all about brainwashing. The failure of the Baby Boomers to NOT go along with it all in the 1960's and 1970's has created the trouble we have today.

And don't think it's going to stop here. By now we are supposed to go along with "pregnant men" and "trans-women" because it's all relative. Maybe some of you know that during the 2010's there were tests given to determine "relative age," so if someone my age still likes Dungeons and Dragons or video games I'm actually something like 12 years old mentally. Can you see where THAT'S going? That's right- normalizing pedophilia, but if I have the famous mid-1980's poster of Kathy Ireland in the skimpy yellow bikini on my workplace wall I'm a pervert. NAMBLA will be the sort of thing made normal, because of claims that sort of thing went on all the time in Ancient Greece and etc. etc. you all know the tune by now.

Look- just as true evil Orcs must be led by a strong evil power somewhere to really accomplish much, SJWs and leftism must be held together by something because otherwise it must all fall apart.

How many of you here have already noticed that leftism consists of groups with conflicting grievances? There was a woman at some health club several years ago kicked out because she didn't want a "trans-woman" in the locker room with her. Illegals from Mexico hate American blacks. Can you see a scruffy white male SJW getting along with a Black Lives Matter radical?

The definition of rape is always being expanded, now to include vague definitions of "rape by deception." Well, the problem with "trans-women" is obviously nobody wants them. They want to playact at being actual women, but no, I repeat NO (hear that George Soros?) straight normal guy wants to date or romance them. Period.

So if a normal guy is drunk, it's late and dark in a bar, and a "trans-woman" manages to get as far as, say, "second base" with normal guy who has had a few too many to see clearly- does that count as rape, or is it once again a double standard?

So there's the problem, fellow gamers- the SJWs are merely the Orcs, but it's Sauron we have to worry about.



Now- the best way to deal with it is to NOT vote in people who go along with any of it, to spread the word, to do what Pundit does and cook up good alternatives, to NOT fund Hollywood or ANY mainstream media, to avoid any company that goes along with it. This may seem to contradict what I said earlier, but once the money REALLY dries up, and I mean REALLY, not just a few people refusing, then something MUST change. A huge swarm of bees can stop an elephant.



 
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #202 on: July 23, 2021, 04:45:33 PM »
Well just know that I appreciate your voices even if I don't always agree with your politics.

I think the best bet is to just keep playing games you enjoy with people you enjoy. The whole point of this hobby is to gather around a table with people you appreciate and have some fun. I think theRPGsite takes some of this stuff a little too seriously. There are tons of games out there and you can choose to support any number of companies whose ideals match your own.

So. My advice? Stop worrying and start living. Some of us (The SJWs) are fighting for something we believe in. I think the tactics get a bit overboard (I'm more of a lead-by-example type) but the purpose is sound. I wish things weren't so hostile. I also don't believe all the hyperbole about fascist nannies imprisoning grognards because of wrong think. So, try to be reasonable with yourself. Don't always jump to "the worse idea imaginable".

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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #203 on: July 23, 2021, 04:54:33 PM »
Well just know that I appreciate your voices even if I don't always agree with your politics.

I think the best bet is to just keep playing games you enjoy with people you enjoy. The whole point of this hobby is to gather around a table with people you appreciate and have some fun. I think theRPGsite takes some of this stuff a little too seriously. There are tons of games out there and you can choose to support any number of companies whose ideals match your own.

So. My advice? Stop worrying and start living. Some of us (The SJWs) are fighting for something we believe in. I think the tactics get a bit overboard (I'm more of a lead-by-example type) but the purpose is sound. I wish things weren't so hostile. I also don't believe all the hyperbole about fascist nannies imprisoning grognards because of wrong think. So, try to be reasonable with yourself. Don't always jump to "the worse idea imaginable".

Things are going to be OK. This too shall work itself out.

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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #204 on: July 23, 2021, 05:31:45 PM »
Well just know that I appreciate your voices even if I don't always agree with your politics.

I think the best bet is to just keep playing games you enjoy with people you enjoy. The whole point of this hobby is to gather around a table with people you appreciate and have some fun. I think theRPGsite takes some of this stuff a little too seriously. There are tons of games out there and you can choose to support any number of companies whose ideals match your own.

So. My advice? Stop worrying and start living. Some of us (The SJWs) are fighting for something we believe in. I think the tactics get a bit overboard (I'm more of a lead-by-example type) but the purpose is sound. I wish things weren't so hostile. I also don't believe all the hyperbole about fascist nannies imprisoning grognards because of wrong think. So, try to be reasonable with yourself. Don't always jump to "the worse idea imaginable".

Things are going to be OK. This too shall work itself out.

I live just fine. Gonna go play some Twilight Imperium tomorrow. No worries there.
Maybe if the SJW hadn't gone batshit fucking insane we'd have less to talk about. Something to consider.
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #205 on: July 23, 2021, 05:37:55 PM »
Folks, as my tag indicates I've been on this spinning mudball for over half a century.

"How do we stop the SJWs?"

Answer: you CANNOT.

The problem here is that SJWs are just mindless useful idiots. Yes they can bully and harass, but they are a symptom, not the disease.

I downloaded and watched Pundit's videos a number of times, and while he is right bringing up the names he does bring up- those rotten French "intellectuals"- he fails to mention the Death Star of leftism run amok: The Frankfurt School.

This was an evil institution that fled to America from Germany in the 1930's to escape Hitler's Nazi Germany. This is the source of most of the insane troublemaking theories we have to deal with today, including Postmodernism and of course Critical Theory, which is the real reason alignments have been removed from Dungeon and Dragons material like Ravenloft.

The Frankfurt School is an interesting topic for where a lot of this stuff originated, but it's been over 50 years, man. The causes have mutated and split and re-merged into whateverthefuck is floating around right now. Shit, James Lindsay's put up hours and hours of content dissecting the history of this stuff. The Frankfurt School is only a tiny piece of the puzzle now.
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #206 on: July 23, 2021, 05:43:15 PM »
Sorry to drop in so late...

But after 14 pages, have any of you figured out how you're going to stop us? Is there a plan? Can I help?

Have you tried to not be a racist?

Could be worth a try.
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #207 on: July 23, 2021, 06:59:36 PM »
Folks, as my tag indicates I've been on this spinning mudball for over half a century.

"How do we stop the SJWs?"

Answer: you CANNOT.

The problem here is that SJWs are just mindless useful idiots. Yes they can bully and harass, but they are a symptom, not the disease.

I downloaded and watched Pundit's videos a number of times, and while he is right bringing up the names he does bring up- those rotten French "intellectuals"- he fails to mention the Death Star of leftism run amok: The Frankfurt School.

This was an evil institution that fled to America from Germany in the 1930's to escape Hitler's Nazi Germany. This is the source of most of the insane troublemaking theories we have to deal with today, including Postmodernism and of course Critical Theory, which is the real reason alignments have been removed from Dungeon and Dragons material like Ravenloft.

The Frankfurt School is an interesting topic for where a lot of this stuff originated, but it's been over 50 years, man. The causes have mutated and split and re-merged into whateverthefuck is floating around right now. Shit, James Lindsay's put up hours and hours of content dissecting the history of this stuff. The Frankfurt School is only a tiny piece of the puzzle now.

Correct. And without denying the toxicity of the Frankfurt School, the current SJW movement is much more directly descended from the degenerate French pseudo-intellectual postmodernists.
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« Reply #208 on: July 24, 2021, 04:27:03 PM »
Folks, as my tag indicates I've been on this spinning mudball for over half a century.

"How do we stop the SJWs?"

Answer: you CANNOT.

The problem here is that SJWs are just mindless useful idiots. Yes they can bully and harass, but they are a symptom, not the disease.

I downloaded and watched Pundit's videos a number of times, and while he is right bringing up the names he does bring up- those rotten French "intellectuals"- he fails to mention the Death Star of leftism run amok: The Frankfurt School.

This was an evil institution that fled to America from Germany in the 1930's to escape Hitler's Nazi Germany. This is the source of most of the insane troublemaking theories we have to deal with today, including Postmodernism and of course Critical Theory, which is the real reason alignments have been removed from Dungeon and Dragons material like Ravenloft.

The Frankfurt School is an interesting topic for where a lot of this stuff originated, but it's been over 50 years, man. The causes have mutated and split and re-merged into whateverthefuck is floating around right now. Shit, James Lindsay's put up hours and hours of content dissecting the history of this stuff. The Frankfurt School is only a tiny piece of the puzzle now.

Correct. And without denying the toxicity of the Frankfurt School, the current SJW movement is much more directly descended from the degenerate French pseudo-intellectual postmodernists.


The problem is that it is all deliberately interconnected.

Those French Postmodernists, if you look at their destructive ideals, and the chronological sequence of events, actually got them from the Frankfurt School. The fact that it's 2021 doesn't mean anything; the sorts of troublemakers involved are still around, same story, different names. The very subject of one of your own videos RPGPundit- the elimination of alignments in games- is a direct result of the teachings of the Frankfurt School. If everything is "relative" then what can be evil and therefore wrong? This is the seed of the Sexual Revolution, the Drug Culture, and the crime wave of the 1980's- those were "victims" of a racist plutocracy, a vile capitalist society, not well...criminals.

Pol Pot was simply another tumor of the cancer called communism, and the modern version of that was the result of the Bolshevik Revolution...in 1917. Those events happened long ago, yet the very things spoken of here are the same.

Leftists like to look at communism and Marxism as good ideas that simply went wrong, but they refuse to understand that what "went wrong" was EXACTLY the way it was supposed to have turned out all along! This is why the same thing happens over and over again with these efforts no matter where or when: the hideous results are not "failures," but what they were meant to be. Hence the Holodomor (look it up), which went on during the WW2 period, yet the Soviet Union was an "ally."

I haven't seen the latest Player's Handbook but does it still say males are stronger than females of the same species (biological fact)? That is part of Critical Theory, that it's not real. My game isn't even past the pre-alpha stage and that alone has already caused me to get some flak. The idea of a "classless society" is based on the concept of equalism, which leads to a "Harrison Bergeron" society- but I got extra credit in class back in 1981 for pointing out that in that "all equal" society Hazel of the Handicap Police was NOT wearing any handicaps. The radicals in the SJW movement all think they will be the Hazels.

To understand what is happening today you must understand how we got here, and that started over a century ago. It's just that the cancer that eventually kills you always starts as the tiniest of growths and is not noticed.

Face it, folks, what we are seeing and dealing with now is something started long ago and was allowed to grow unchecked. We are stuck with the mess the Baby Boomers and earlier generations failed to put a stop to in its earlier stages.

Just wait until playing any "non-canon" e.g. leftist version of Dungeons and Dragons becomes a copyright violation and a hate crime. Sound crazy? If I went back in time to 1981 and described 2021 do you think anyone would have believed me?

It won't be easy no matter what.
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #209 on: July 24, 2021, 04:45:42 PM »
A bit off topic yet related: if you were around decades ago as I was you might have recalled living through a curious "blip" in recent history.

Radical feminism was on the rapid rise throughout the 1970's, especially after Betty Freidan's book came out in the 1960's. The pilot episode of "Wonder Woman" slammed "women are better than men" feminism in your face, it was all over the place, even in movies like "9 to 5."

But then it all toned down in the first half of the 1980's. Look at the more masculine and even traditional shows and movies that came out, the campy "A-Team" actually being red-pilled.

But then it all started up again in the late 1980's. What happened?

Circa 1980 two key events occurred: Ronald Reagan's election and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. It seemed for years as if World War 3 was ready to happen at any moment. It was a time of danger.

Then Gorbechev took power in 1985. Things cooled down, and radicalism was back, reflected in pop culture.

You see the pattern?

Every single time things become dangerous leftism and equalism vanish, because there is no room for it. This is why women were more "liberated" in the 1920's than the 1950's as Robert Hughes pointed out but he got the reason all wrong, it was because the possibility of nuclear war in the 1950's was very real, parts of the world were still recovering from WW2, but in the 1920's it seemed as though the party would never end- until of course 1929.

This concerns me, folks. There is now so much hatred and antagonism in our society that if things go wrong, seriously wrong, "pulling together" will simply be impossible. I've seen how white men would spit on white women and leave them to their fates (likely death) in a "Lucifer's Hammer" or even "Mad Max" situation. Yet SJWs and feminists will absolutely be incapable of facing the cold truth that they themselves are to blame.

Heck, look at the bad blood happening over a game like Dungeons and Dragons! Now imagine something truly serious!

It just makes me...sad. Sad, and very, very tired.
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