RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"

Shasarak · July 17, 2021, 10:09:30 PM

Quote from: Ravenswing on July 17, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
Oh noes!! The Evul, Evul SJWs will not only ruin the hobby, but destroy civilization as well en route to bringing about the heat death of the universe! They're going to send their Lawful Good Squads to force you to play their way! They're going to ban everyone from even OWNING any game that doesn't have George Soros' personal signature on them! All their products will cost $66.60 apiece!

Hey, I got a question.

How come so many of your Lawful Good Squads are Sex offenders?

Omega · July 17, 2021, 11:32:48 PM

Quote from: Ocule on July 05, 2021, 01:45:53 PM
I mean the issue hasn't ever really been whether or not to include gays or whatever in the game but finding yourself on the outside of the new gatekeepers because you're the wrong color, political persuasion or just don't want to be preached at. I mean how many times do we need to reform our groups and communities? We get chased out like stray dogs make a new community just to have the same shit happen again in the new community. I found savage worlds after swearing off wotc, and paizo both, now they look like they could go either way. Especially after watching how quick new tsr got yeeted, I'd be surprised if dtrpg didn't somehow retaliate as well against their products.

Savage Worlds was kowtoeing to the SJWs a few years ago wo will not surprise me at all if they go full on supporter.

HappyDaze · July 17, 2021, 11:36:26 PM

Quote from: Shasarak on July 17, 2021, 10:09:30 PM
Quote from: Ravenswing on July 17, 2021, 02:42:10 PM
Oh noes!! The Evul, Evul SJWs will not only ruin the hobby, but destroy civilization as well en route to bringing about the heat death of the universe! They're going to send their Lawful Good Squads to force you to play their way! They're going to ban everyone from even OWNING any game that doesn't have George Soros' personal signature on them! All their products will cost $66.60 apiece!

Hey, I got a question.

How come so many of your Lawful Good Squads are Sex offenders?

We're not interested in you showing off your friends list.

Omega · July 17, 2021, 11:39:36 PM

Quote from: Godsmonkey on July 05, 2021, 01:52:58 PM
4. (or maybe 3b?) Box up all your material from said company and RETURN it with your letter of admonishment. This is putting your money where your mouth is. Sure, they got your cash, but returning your PHB and DMG shows you aren't playing around. If they get thousands of books returned, it will send a stronger message than just a terse email.

This is the stupidest thing to do ever.
The company will just laugh at anyone who gave them money then returned the product. They dont care about what you bought.
They care about what you WILL buy. Or wont buy now.

Or they would if they were not under the thumb of the moral outrage brigade as TSR became, or on WOTCs case, thoroughly in the pocket of the cult.

Omve a company get it in their head doing X will lose them money and doing Y will gain them money. No amount of proof otherwise will change that till they lose ALOT of money. Or the company changes hands to someone sane or at least with the backbone to tell these loons to take a hike.

Shasarak · July 18, 2021, 12:24:29 AM

Quote from: HappyDaze on July 17, 2021, 11:36:26 PM
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tenbones · July 18, 2021, 03:19:31 AM

Quote from: Omega on July 17, 2021, 11:32:48 PM
Savage Worlds was kowtoeing to the SJWs a few years ago wo will not surprise me at all if they go full on supporter.

Is this a reference to the Confederate Army thing in Deadlands? Shane pretty clearly answered that. They're revamping the entire Deadlands line and the Confederacy didn't fit into it. I'm actually not sure it *ever* fit into the Deadlands metaplot - which in point of fact, even in the current timeline which they collapse - they last longer than they did in the actual real world. He did it to clean up the narrative which he's tying back into their upcoming Deadlands Medieval. He made a big huge post about it.

If there is some other thing I'm not aware of - I'd love to hear it.

I don't support any of this SJW shit. I sure as fuck will drop Savage Worlds if they start.

Omega · July 18, 2021, 07:00:38 AM

Quote from: Jaeger on July 08, 2021, 06:29:16 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on July 08, 2021, 05:24:24 AM
Just remember it was Christian goons who wanted to burn your D&D books in the 80's.

Nope, sorry...

It was neurotic mothers looking for something to blame for their bad parenting, and a few theological nobody hucksters trying to cash in on a media fueled ratings grab frenzy.

Why were a bunch of theological nobody hucksters given a so much media airtime?

Why were a bunch of no-names with little following outside their local congregations given a national microphone?

No mainstream or world wide Christian Church put out any official statements about "D&D being the devil".

How come the media at the time driving the "Christians say D&D is the devil" narrative never went to the head of any world wide mainstream Christian Church and asked for an official statement on the issue?

Because they knew the answer would go against with their "look at the crazy Christians" narrative that they were establishing. And they so love to conflate the fringe churchians, and the theological zero's of Christianity with every practicing Christian in America.

And apparently it's worked...

I was playing games during the whole so-called "panic" I'm a member of one of the most conservative mainstream Christian Faiths in the US and world wide.

My Church's official stance on D&D? Absolutely nothing. It is a non issue. Never even brought up.

Now did some smaller loosely affiliated churches buy into the media hysteria? Yes. I wouldn't doubt that maybe even some local congregations of a mainstream church may have lost their damn minds.

So yeah, sucks for the guys who had to live with the actions of gullible parents and pastors with their mail-order preaching certificates who bought into the hysteria. And who made themselves feel good by hating on D&D instead of dealing with their own issues...

But let's label the churchian goons for what they really were, and in some cases still are: Idiots.

Not mainstream Christianity.

Don't buy into the media's Black Legend.

Off topic, kinda.

For a while. And then these "moral guardians" insinuated their lies into mainstream religion and eventually we did indeed have them too after us.

As I've mentioned before. One day I was at the library and a priest approached me as started asking me about one of my players. Not long after he vanished.
Years later I bumped into him and found out what happened. The priest had been investigating the kids "satanic cult behavior" and his parents had sent him to military school to "re-educate" him. Whatever came back. It was not my friend who vanished.

Never underestimate just how insidious these cults can be in infiltrating groups.

Omega · July 18, 2021, 07:05:05 AM

Quote from: GnomeWorks on July 08, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
Because they're like vegans, at this point. It's all they can talk about, and they inject their orientation into everything, regardless of how appropriate.

BGG. I kid you not. A year or two ago we had someone tell a game designer that they would not buy his game if it had leather in it... because they were vegans...

Omega · July 18, 2021, 07:11:58 AM

Quote from: Shasarak on July 09, 2021, 07:05:19 PM
As far as I can tell, the Satanic Panic was almost entirely an American tradition.

Oh it extended to other lands. Just not in the ways it did in the US. Spain and a few other countries for example STILL have regions where RPGs are illegal as they are marked as... gambling. This was an angle tried in the US too when screaming DEVIL! didnt work. But mercifully did not take off. Other countries it did and apparently no one has tried to abolish it as as of 2 weeks ago I was talking to someone in europe who could not play RPGs because of local law.

According to at least two sources though that law is not enforced all over Spain for example. But only in some cities.

Remember. If they cant get you one way they will try to concoct some excuse to get you another way.

Omega · July 18, 2021, 07:21:49 AM

Quote from: tenbones on July 18, 2021, 03:19:31 AMIs this a reference to the Confederate Army thing in Deadlands? Shane pretty clearly answered that. They're revamping the entire Deadlands line and the Confederacy didn't fit into it. I'm actually not sure it *ever* fit into the Deadlands metaplot - which in point of fact, even in the current timeline which they collapse - they last longer than they did in the actual real world. He did it to clean up the narrative which he's tying back into their upcoming Deadlands Medieval. He made a big huge post about it.

If there is some other thing I'm not aware of - I'd love to hear it.

I don't support any of this SJW shit. I sure as fuck will drop Savage Worlds if they start.

Only one I can recall was they pressured the designer of some SW sci-fi book to change the art on the cover because it was deemed "sexist". Early forays before the cult got under full steam but even then they were exerting influence. I could be wrong about it being a SW book though. Its been a few years. Think there was a thread on it here?

palaeomerus · July 18, 2021, 08:36:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWMjjASidhE

Here we go. MtG D&D student life and prom.

Good troll SJWs. It's so completely a screw that I find it hard even to be mad. All I can do it nod. Ya got me. I'm done. Well done.

palaeomerus · July 18, 2021, 08:40:59 PM

Prom > Problematic murderhobos

HA HA HA HAAA HAA HA HAAAAA HAAAAA HA

GeekyBugle · July 18, 2021, 09:22:34 PM

Quote from: palaeomerus on July 18, 2021, 08:36:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWMjjASidhE

Here we go. MtG D&D student life and prom.

Good troll SJWs. It's so completely a screw that I find it hard even to be mad. All I can do it nod. Ya got me. I'm done. Well done.

The article in question:

https://archive.is/YGoOO

Ratman_tf · July 18, 2021, 09:37:55 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on July 18, 2021, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: palaeomerus on July 18, 2021, 08:36:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWMjjASidhE

Here we go. MtG D&D student life and prom.

Good troll SJWs. It's so completely a screw that I find it hard even to be mad. All I can do it nod. Ya got me. I'm done. Well done.

The article in question:

https://archive.is/YGoOO

Eh. It's no dumber than a funhouse dungeon or a character funnel. Not my cup of tea, but whatever.

jeff37923 · July 18, 2021, 10:04:49 PM

Quote from: Omega on July 18, 2021, 07:11:58 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on July 09, 2021, 07:05:19 PM
As far as I can tell, the Satanic Panic was almost entirely an American tradition.

Oh it extended to other lands. Just not in the ways it did in the US. Spain and a few other countries for example STILL have regions where RPGs are illegal as they are marked as... gambling. This was an angle tried in the US too when screaming DEVIL! didnt work. But mercifully did not take off. Other countries it did and apparently no one has tried to abolish it as as of 2 weeks ago I was talking to someone in europe who could not play RPGs because of local law.

According to at least two sources though that law is not enforced all over Spain for example. But only in some cities.

Remember. If they cant get you one way they will try to concoct some excuse to get you another way.

Umm, there are notable exceptions to the RPGs = gambling not taking off in the US. In several prisons and jails in the US, RPGs are considered gambling and considered contraband for inmates.