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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #240 on: July 28, 2021, 07:11:15 PM »
IMHO not only software, hardware needs to be open too. How do you know the hardware doesn't have any backdoors?

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« Reply #241 on: July 28, 2021, 07:46:07 PM »
IMHO not only software, hardware needs to be open too. How do you know the hardware doesn't have any backdoors?

100%. System76 got you covered there.

Ryzen, core, xeon CPUs, I don't see a single CPU much less GPU that's opensourced.
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« Reply #242 on: July 28, 2021, 10:07:17 PM »
What is a "loot crate?" If it's about mobile gaming it is a blind spot, I only use laptops.

I prefer to learn about it from actual people who respond rather than an Internet search.
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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #243 on: July 28, 2021, 11:43:54 PM »
I want the naughtiness of D&D to come back. It's maybe about half of what I liked about it.

Look, I was never a SMOF so I can't filk worth a toot, but the last couple of editions  would not have led to me wasting my time bothering MS paint into producing this.

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« Reply #244 on: July 29, 2021, 01:12:39 AM »
What is a "loot crate?" If it's about mobile gaming it is a blind spot, I only use laptops.

I prefer to learn about it from actual people who respond rather than an Internet search.

It's a phenonmenon on many games, not just mobile games.

You spend real world cash for in-game bennies, that are randomized in a virtual "box" of goodies. Like Experience point boosters, item "skins" (alternate appearances for gear), emotes (social things your character can do, like /cry or /laugh or /tango), in-game currency, and straight up superior gear.
The goal is to have rare items that only occasionally appear in a loot box so you buy a ton of them looking for rare stuff.
I got some loot crates for being a paid subscriber to Star Wars, The Old Republic and it made me so appaled I cancelled my sub and have only played as a "free" account since.
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« Reply #245 on: July 30, 2021, 12:04:39 AM »
When I spoke out against the hate mob attacking Bob Bledsoe Jr all I got was grief from both sides. It was clear to me at that point that "the SJWs" were not the problem, merely a symptom of the problem. The issue is the entire idea that there's a line where if someone believes anything beyond that line, they need to be banned from RPGs. All that we have now are groups of people arguing as to where the line should be drawn. But any time you have such a line, it will always be moved to include more and more people. That part is inevitable.

The moment you say something like "D&D has always been Inclusive" or "D&D has always been Diverse" you've lost the argument because you are making the case that inclusivity and diversity are qualities on which an RPG should be judge. And if a little Inclusiveness is good, more Inclusiveness is better. So, one again you are simply arguing on how high a percentage of straight while males are allowed to play a game before that game is bad.

We need to completely reject the idea that RPGs should be judge on such criteria. That is the only way out of this mess.

It has made me very hesitant to want to pick up new games because I hate to invest my time and money into a game where the devs hate me and would see me put in a fucking gulag if they could and what is apolitical or not woke today, won't necessarily be still apolitical or not woke tomorrow.

This is the best course of action. Avoid the RPG industry and make your own games.

I know I'm late but I just read your comment and I wanted to say: YES. This is the right thing to do. Don't "lose frame". Don't argue on their terms, don't give in to their scale of values, don't get defensive. "Diversity" and "inclusivity" (i.e. shoehorning characters of every possible "minority" for the sake of representation) are not positive nor valuable aspects of a game. It's pushing an agenda, period. They may act oblivious but they know it's part of their manifesto. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a party of straight, white males; especially not in a European fantasy setting. Your game does not need to go out of its way to pander to people who will still feel pissed off.

Wokes are like children testing their parents' strength of character; seeing how far they can get with their tantrum. Give them an inch and you'll have them banning people for not worshipping a gay couple. Stop them in their tracks, otherwise they'll feel enabled.

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Re: RE: "How do we stop the D&D SJWs now"
« Reply #246 on: July 30, 2021, 10:52:04 AM »
Wokes are like children testing their parents' strength of character; seeing how far they can get with their tantrum. Give them an inch and you'll have them banning people for not worshipping a gay couple. Stop them in their tracks, otherwise they'll feel enabled.

I think this is a dangerous analogy.  Wokesters are intelligent, dedicated adults.  They're more likely to be psychopaths and fanatics, not children.    I'm concerned that down playing their mental faculties leads to underestimating the harm they can do.
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« Reply #247 on: July 30, 2021, 01:37:48 PM »
Wokes are like children testing their parents' strength of character; seeing how far they can get with their tantrum. Give them an inch and you'll have them banning people for not worshipping a gay couple. Stop them in their tracks, otherwise they'll feel enabled.

I think this is a dangerous analogy.  Wokesters are intelligent, dedicated adults.  They're more likely to be psychopaths and fanatics, not children.    I'm concerned that down playing their mental faculties leads to underestimating the harm they can do.

I don't think they qualify as intelligent by any standard; they don't produce anything of value, they create problems rather than solving them, they have delusional views completely dettached from reality, they have zero consistency in terms of values, lack individual thought, they bring down successful franchises, have dysfunctional, unfulfilling lifestyles, can't play a game without breaking down due to microaggressions and need to drag other people down to their level. However, they are psychopathic, manipulative, dishonest, spiteful, resentful, cruel and act like a hivemind fueled by hatred of their parents shaped by indoctrination mechanisms.

Their sole existence depends on millionaires and billionaires funding them in spite of their constant failure and politicians keeping them alive for their own gain. They need to ban people en masse, block comments, get people fired, social shaming, state coercion, manipulation of the news, lying and cheating so that normal people won't call them out and utterly destroy their narrative.

That being said, the average woke lady is probably just "shit testing" you to get a reaction. Don't give it to her. Don't engage. Laugh it off and carry on.

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« Reply #248 on: August 09, 2021, 10:51:18 PM »
Ran across this private group on Farcebook a little while ago. Dude just wants a place for folks to post gaming group finder ads without being harassed by the woke crowd. They've only gotta little over 100 members so far, but I figured this would be as good of a place as any to share the link. Join up if you want: https://www.facebook.com/groups/245455460736574/?ref=share
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« Reply #249 on: August 10, 2021, 05:33:12 AM »
Ran across this private group on Farcebook a little while ago. Dude just wants a place for folks to post gaming group finder ads without being harassed by the woke crowd. They've only gotta little over 100 members so far, but I figured this would be as good of a place as any to share the link. Join up if you want: https://www.facebook.com/groups/245455460736574/?ref=share

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« Reply #250 on: August 10, 2021, 10:14:26 AM »
One of the better things you can do to "Stop the SJWs" is get off of Facebook.

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« Reply #251 on: August 10, 2021, 10:36:27 AM »
One of the better things you can do to "Stop the SJWs" is get off of Facebook.

True. I have almost cut out my interaction there, but it's kind of like crack or meth, once you're hooked it's hard to break away from it completely all at once. That, and it's still sort of useful to see what some normal gamers are up to these days.
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« Reply #252 on: August 10, 2021, 02:04:55 PM »
One of the better things you can do to "Stop the SJWs" is get off of Facebook.

True. I have almost cut out my interaction there, but it's kind of like crack or meth, once you're hooked it's hard to break away from it completely all at once.

On the other hand, once you *do* quit crack, meth, or Farcebook, it becomes really really obvious how much better your life is without it.

That, and it's still sort of useful to see what some normal gamers are up to these days.

Interesting, I myself haven't gleaned any value whatsoever from that information. YMMV.
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« Reply #253 on: August 10, 2021, 03:42:41 PM »
Never quite understood the hate for Facebook myself.

I use it to schedule gaming, keep up with family and friends, and post stupid jokes. Like I do on the rest of the internet.

My progressive friends post dumb political shit, and my conservative friends post dumb political shit. I ignore it all.

Most of what pisses me off about Facebook is the advertising, but I hate all advertising, so that's not out of the ordinary.
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« Reply #254 on: August 10, 2021, 03:57:28 PM »
Wait, what?  FB has advertising?  I've long ago filtered 99% of that out.  I find FB is fine if you avoid the toxic bits.  And by now, things like fact checkers are running jokes that earns FB mockery more than anything else.
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