How about Mace Bishop (Jimmy Stewart) from Bandolero?

Every time someone (including his own brother Dee, played by Dean Martin) asks him why he did something his answer was the same:


Dee Bishop: [incredulous] You robbed a bank? You, Mace?

Mace Bishop: Well, Dee, the bank was there... and I was there... and there wasn't very much of anybody else there... and it just seemed like the thing to do. Y'know, it's not like you didn't - something you never heard of. Lots of people rob banks for all sorts of different reasons.

Dee Bishop: [bemused] You just walked into a bank and helped yourself to ten thousand dollars 'cause it seemed like the thing to do?

Mace Bishop: That's about the way it was, yeah, as, as well as I can remember, yeah.

Quote from: jibbajibba;841857Nemesis the Warlock (and Deadlock of the ABC Warriors)

From what I read of Nemesis he was fairly orderly and organized. Well more than most anyone else in those comics. ahem.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;842345This is the hardest alignment in my view. I would have check, but I feel like it is also the one that has changed the most in the rules.

I would say Jim Morrison as he was presented in the movie the Doors was a pretty good candidate for Chaotic Neutral.

Yeah.

Base interpretation is that its chaotic without anything to define it. And really that could be any sort of relatively odd or crazy characters from Mel Brooks to Pinkie Pie.

The big thing is that there is neither maliciousness nor kindness in it. Or if it is, its incidental or accidental to the general randomness.

The real issue though is. How is the player playing it? Because trying to go on a serious adventure or talk to the mob whole Joe is playing the accordion and throwing pies is at times going to put the stress test on someone elses patience.

I think a very large amount of criminals who care only or mostly about themselves but aren't actively vicious or malevolent fit in the C/N mold.

Many of Clint Eastwood's western killers fall into here also.

Riddick is a great one.

Basically for the non-psycho C/N just look to the hard-bitten mercenary, pirate, vigilante, etc.

Quote from: Doughdee222;842005I agree with most of those above.

First that came to my mind: Eddie Haskell (Leave it to Beaver).

That makes perfect sense and  though I've watched LITB many times I'd have never thought of that.

If I'm sticking to comics, and I like pulling my examples from there, Spawn.

Unpredictable, neither good nor evil, and not "batshit insane".

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;842345This is the hardest alignment in my view. I would have check, but I feel like it is also the one that has changed the most in the rules.

I would say Jim Morrison as he was presented in the movie the Doors was a pretty good candidate for Chaotic Neutral.

Actually, yeah.

JG

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;842345I would say Jim Morrison as he was presented in the movie the Doors was a pretty good candidate for Chaotic Neutral.

Interesting and very different example.

Do you mean it because of the whole 'freak the mundanes' angle?

Quote from: RPGPundit;842840Interesting and very different example.

Do you mean it because of the whole 'freak the mundanes' angle?

The definition of Chaotic Neutral that has stuck in my mind most over the years is the 2E definition. Which is actually a bit different from the 3E one. 2E describes them as guided almost entirely by their own whims, being incredibly difficult to deal with, and viewing evil and good as irrelevant. It also calls it the alignment of lunatics and madmen. It has been a a few years since I've seen the movie, but I mean it because of how the film portrayed him more than the reality of who he was as a man (though aspects of the real Jim Morrison certainly feel chaotic neutral to me). In the movie he feels like someone who well beyond concerns of good and evil, and he was in real life very influenced by Nietzsche, which I think fits that part of Chaotic Neutral and the movie was trying to highlight through some of his actions. So in that sense I think the freak the mundanes angle is part of my reasoning. Also, the movie really exaggerated his persona to the point that he looks like a blue print for a chaotic neutral character to me. He was intensely impulsive and would do things like light fires just to see what happened or provoke a reaction.

The Doors was a pseudo-mystical, incoherent mess, which meant that as a biography of Jim Morrison, it was PERFECT.  

JG

For all its bad reputation, CN is probably the most fitting alignment for adventurers: the footloose scoundrel treasure hunters who are self-interested but not evil.

Think Han Solo, especially early on.

Karl Edward Wagner's version of Kane is probably CN. He spends most of his time fighting evil only because it gets in his way. But he'll kill good guys if they trouble him too.

Many cartoon characters are more or less CN, particularly the Warner Bros. ones: Elmer Fudd, Daffy Duck, Foghorn Leghorn, Tazmanian Devil, etc. Although they also veer toward the "batshit crazy" side too.

Taz hate water.

Are there more serious people who are CN?

Quote from: RPGPundit;843933Are there more serious people who are CN?

Arguably Michel Foucault.

Like I said, arguably.

JG