Quote from: CRKrueger;958967Marley has a hardon for Gronan and anyone from a time in the hobby prior to when she entered it.  Their existence and having an opinion is enough to make her go aggro, nothing else needed.  Her giving a textbook example of a threadcrap purely for site disruption is nothing new, it's practically her M.O. for a thread or post she doesn't like.  She just hasn't done it to Pundit yet.

Oh. I wondered what was going on. That's too bad.

Quote from: Dumarest;958971To be honest I didn't find it very interesting mainly because there were pages and pages that were off in the hinterlands away from actually questioning anyone, but I just stopped reading it instead of pissing all over it for no reason. I'm not especially interested in Tekumel, but I thought maybe there would be some neat stories from Ye Olden Days of RPGs. Unfortunate there was just too much chaff and not enough wheat for me to bother sifting through the thread. I'm hoping this Part II thread will be better.

Understood; if you want stories, ask. This is your thread, not mine.

Quote from: Hrugga;958975I am very much into Epics!!! This has become very, very entertaining!!! Long live Lord Chirine baKal Servant of the Flame!!! Long may you answer all inquiries...serious and silly alike!!!

H;0)

PS Questioning to follow...Maybe!!! 599 pages to go.

My little epic is now up to 128,000 words, and steaming away nicely.

Ad for the thread, as long as people want to ask me questions, I'll be here. You are driving this, not me.

Quote from: Greentongue;958984Quote Originally Posted by tekumelcollecting  View Post
There's a new post up on //www.tekumelcollecting.com

This one is about Professor Barker's Tékumel novels. Have a look!
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"The Man of Gold and Flamesong read as novels, but the last three novels read like well-edited renditions of an RPG game, which is what they were."
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chirine, how closely do these books follow the "actual play", if it is true they are "renditions of an RPG game"?

Was this the play group you were a part of or a combination of both groups?

Will your book expand on these or be in parallel?
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Tough question.

First two: They don't really follow what happened at the table, but do in the sense that they reflect what the games would be like if you removed all of the social interactions. They are not renditions of any actual games in Phil's groups at the time; the Monday Group - the 'New Men' - and Vrisa gat a mention at the end of MoG, and Phil used the Monday players as people in FS. As far as I know, none of this was ever played out in game, as Phil simply didn't trust any of them to not screw up things in his plotted novels. The only in-game incident is in FS, with Third Mar being won by Gronan. And that it only gets touched on.

Second three: The then-Monday / later new TNG players get a lot of air time, as they really grooved on the ego-boo of being in the books. Again, as far as I know from perosonal observation and Phil's files, they were never played out in-game. Lots of game session incidents mentioned as local color, because that's how Phil wrote.

Phil really did not like having "those pesky players-characters" involved in his books, except as bit players; he felt that they could not be trusted not to mess around with things.

"To Serve The Petal Throne" is being told from an entirely in-game perspective; it's the story of our alter-egos' adventures in Phil's world, set down as if some storyteller in the marketplace was giving them to you. I am very strictly following the timeline of Phil's game sessions with us, using my campaign notes that I made at the time, the audio recordings we made of game sessions, and all the notes and documents in my files. If there was a map or drawing, for example, that was created for a particular adventure I'll include it in the context in which it was created in an attempt to show you what we did in Phil's basement. What you make of it is up to you; all I can do is show you the data from those games, and if you can take anything away from it for your own then I'll consider the effort a success.

Just to make it as clear as possible, I'm here to answer questions that you all might have. I'm letting you pick my brain, and get as much out of the poor old thing as you can for your use. As has been mentioned, I've been around for a while - not as long as Gronan, though - and I've been there, done that, and seen the elephant. The thread will continue for as long as Pundit will host it, and for as long as people have questions. Stop asking, and the thread ends - as simple as that.

As for subject matter, that's really up to you. If you want information about Tekumel, that's fine; stories about the early days of gaming here in the Twin Cities and the birth of the industry, then you have to ask - and ask specific questions please, as I'm not going to reprint "Playing At The World" and other books as thread posts. This thread is yours, not mine; I'm simply the person sitting in the chair behind the counter.

And, I hold with Estar's comments; I assume you all have some degree of intelligence, and I assume you're using it. If you have an issue with the subject matter or the direction of the thread, then please speak up; whining and bitching may b fun, and isn't very useful for the rest of us.

And it might be a good moment to say 'thank you!' to Pundit and Estar for their efforts, too...

Quote from: chirine ba kal;958989My little epic is now up to 128,000 words, and steaming away nicely.

Ad for the thread, as long as people want to ask me questions, I'll be here. You are driving this, not me.

Uncle,

Any lists of the Bednalljan Kings and Queens. There is a particular one that I find interesting; the last one that went northward from Yan Kor to the other side of the globe. The one who met an ill-fated demise only hinted in the sourcebook. Would you have any insight into the subject?

Thanks,

H:0)

Quote from: Hrugga;958994Uncle,

Any lists of the Bednalljan Kings and Queens. There is a particular one that I find interesting; the last one that went northward from Yan Kor to the other side of the globe. The one who met an ill-fated demise only hinted in the sourcebook. Would you have any insight into the subject?

Thanks,

H:0)

Yeah, I have one someplace in the files. The guy was one of the Ssirandars, XXIII or something, and his descendants can still be found over the pole in one of the local towns on that quadrant. Tubeway car station, which was how we got there. Too close to the Hokun, though, for my tastes.

Quote from: CRKrueger;958967Marley has a hardon for Gronan and anyone from a time in the hobby prior to when she entered it. Their existence and having an opinion is enough to make her go aggro, nothing else needed.  Her giving a textbook example of a threadcrap purely for site disruption is nothing new, it's practically her M.O. for a thread or post she doesn't like.  She just hasn't done it to Pundit yet.

Oh, I didn't realize about that it was due to such a change:D!

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;958977I get it. Tekumel is an acquired taste and your reaction to the way the thread was going is what I would consider a balanced perspective. If it's boring to you then move on. Why piss on someone else's parade. This attitude of willful disruption is tedious and indicates some underlying issues, IMO. There are a lot of threads on this forum that do not interest me in the slightest, for example the Exalted one, but I don't go there and shit on everyone. I just pass it by...

I'm having fun with both threads, but the Exalted thread contains a much higher ratio of bitching. And I find bitching useless.

Quote from: Hrugga;958981Good Lord, could you explain "what weighs down on the site's traffic" means? Forgive. I'm not very tech savy having never been for long in Humanspace proper...Thank you.

H:0)

PS Or just ignore this...I thought it was great that part I was always on page one of the thread list. More OP relevant posts to follow.

Honestly, mighty Hrugga, I think you overestimate my technical props;)!
Besides, I find ignoring that accident to be the best response.

Some people are just jealous of Chirine's massive throbbing thread.

" I liked that name Chairine Ba Kal. I assumed it about some gay roleplayer "

Red Leader, Red Leader, this is Red Eight.  Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, I say again, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?

Quote from: AsenRG;958998Honestly, mighty Hrugga, I think you overestimate my technical props;)!
Besides, I find ignoring that accident to be the best response.

Excellent!!! That usually works like a 10th Circle charm...In some cases the High Ride does well also...

H:0)

The original thread gave me WEEKS of down time reading trying to just gleam all I could from it!  Wonderful stuff.

Quote from: chirine ba kal;958995Yeah, I have one someplace in the files. The guy was one of the Ssirandars, XXIII or something, and his descendants can still be found over the pole in one of the local towns on that quadrant. Tubeway car station, which was how we got there. Too close to the Hokun, though, for my tastes.

Seems that Ssirandars was a really favored appellation in the olden days!!!

Thanks,

H:0)

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;959011Some people are just jealous of Chirine's massive throbbing thread.

Personally, I think it's the whiff of primer paint that attracts them. Always seemed to work with the ladies; had one young lady who really, really wanted to pose for me while I painted up a Priestess of Avanthe in her likeness. Still have the figure, too.

What I found really funny about our interlocutor was that it's yet another reminder to me of why I decline to spend resources on going to game conventions. As I've said, for that kind of money I could pay you to drop by and kick my balls for a weekend; we'd both be more comfortable, get more sleep and more food, and I'd have a much better quality level of miserable time.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;959011Some people are just jealous of Chirine's massive throbbing thread.

Personally, I think it's the whiff of primer paint that attracts them. Always seemed to work with the ladies; had one young lady who really, really wanted to pose for me while I painted up a Priestess of Avanthe in her likeness. Still have the figure, too.

What I found really funny about our interlocutor was that it's yet another reminder to me of why I decline to spend resources on going to game conventions. As I've said, for that kind of money I could pay you to drop by and kick my balls for a weekend; we'd both be more comfortable, get more sleep and more food, and I'd have a much better quality level of miserable time.