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Author Topic: Project Black Flag Playtests  (Read 6134 times)

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2023, 06:38:08 PM »
Meet the senior game designer for the project:

https://twitter.com/cconowitch

If you had ANY doubts it was gonna be woke as fuck.
If we DON'T get dangerhaired genderfluid elves, nonbinary dwarves, halflings who tick all the NAMBLA fetish boxes, oppressed orcs in tune with nature and all ciswhite males take a -5 to all stats as reparations for past oppressions, then I'm going to accuse them of being insufficiently woke for 2023 Seattle values.

Make the bastards live up to their own idiot standards. Then mock them for their idiot standards.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2023, 10:46:16 PM »
Black Flag is not going to save the D&D community.

From the newest Kobold Press newsletter, see image below.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2023, 05:13:56 AM »
Black Flag is not going to save the D&D community.

The point is just to damage WotC. The point would also be to split up support between Paizo and Kobold. If Paizo becomes the 800 pound gorilla with PF2e, they're just as woke as WotC, so that doesn't help us. If defection from WotC and D&D is more evenly distributed, that overall weakens the power SJWs have over the hobby as a whole. If people are wondering if they should go to PF2e or Black Flag, the comparison obviously invites suggestions for other systems as well. Which could mean Savage Worlds or Castles & Crusades, and strengthening either of them would only be good.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2023, 06:00:01 AM »
This went from fuchsia hair to full-time SS uniform pretty quick, my friend.

I'm sure there's already an anime waifu in that very combination.  8) Probably with a gundam mech not too far away, too.
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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2023, 11:41:26 AM »
Black Flag is not going to save the D&D community.

The point is just to damage WotC. The point would also be to split up support between Paizo and Kobold. If Paizo becomes the 800 pound gorilla with PF2e, they're just as woke as WotC, so that doesn't help us. If defection from WotC and D&D is more evenly distributed, that overall weakens the power SJWs have over the hobby as a whole. If people are wondering if they should go to PF2e or Black Flag, the comparison obviously invites suggestions for other systems as well. Which could mean Savage Worlds or Castles & Crusades, and strengthening either of them would only be good.

Take a look at my post just above and you will see that Kobold Press is every bit as woke.  That ad is for raising money for the Trevor Project.  Google that if you are not familiar.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2023, 11:57:32 AM »
This went from fuchsia hair to full-time SS uniform pretty quick, my friend.
I'm sure there's already an anime waifu in that very combination...
Because I have high curiosity and poor impulse control... it took me less than 30 seconds to find that combination on the internet.   ;D
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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2023, 12:50:08 PM »
Meet the senior game designer for the project:

https://twitter.com/cconowitch

If you had ANY doubts it was gonna be woke as fuck.
Strangely enough, I'm an hour in to this chat and she's actually given some solid RPG design advice.  So, I have some hope, at least mechanically, for Black Flag.  Now, what happens in the fluff text remains to be seen.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1713146129
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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2023, 01:01:47 PM »
Strangely enough, I'm an hour in to this chat and she's actually given some solid RPG design advice.  So, I have some hope, at least mechanically, for Black Flag.  Now, what happens in the fluff text remains to be seen.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1713146129

  One can be both thoroughly progressive and a good game designer--see Jonathan "I'll use my games to raise money for Planned Parenthood" Tweet.
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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2023, 05:52:48 PM »
Black Flag is not going to save the D&D community.

The point is just to damage WotC. The point would also be to split up support between Paizo and Kobold. If Paizo becomes the 800 pound gorilla with PF2e, they're just as woke as WotC, so that doesn't help us. If defection from WotC and D&D is more evenly distributed, that overall weakens the power SJWs have over the hobby as a whole. If people are wondering if they should go to PF2e or Black Flag, the comparison obviously invites suggestions for other systems as well. Which could mean Savage Worlds or Castles & Crusades, and strengthening either of them would only be good.

Take a look at my post just above and you will see that Kobold Press is every bit as woke.  That ad is for raising money for the Trevor Project.  Google that if you are not familiar.

Take a look at my post that you quoted. You're missing the point.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2023, 02:39:19 AM »
Is Black Flag something of value for the hobby? I say yes, even if just for the reasons you cited assuming it's utter shit (and we don't know how good/bad, woke/unwoke it is yet).

Ive been ripped off by Kobold before and so the coral snake is still the coral snake and Black Flag I will be expecting to be another standard substandard cash in by them. If not an outright rip-off. Once burned. Twice burned. Not buying the "but they have changed!" gag again.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2023, 04:12:05 AM »
Is Black Flag something of value for the hobby? I say yes, even if just for the reasons you cited assuming it's utter shit (and we don't know how good/bad, woke/unwoke it is yet).

Ive been ripped off by Kobold before and so the coral snake is still the coral snake and Black Flag I will be expecting to be another standard substandard cash in by them. If not an outright rip-off. Once burned. Twice burned. Not buying the "but they have changed!" gag again.

I don't expect them to have changed. I don't expect them to not be infested with SJWs. I simply expect participating in and talking about the playtest to maintain ill will against WotC, so they don't get away with their bullshit. And I expect Black Flag to spread out the defection from D&D 5e over two systems instead of the otherwise most likely result which is for them to go straight to PF2e.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2023, 05:45:00 AM »
Is Black Flag something of value for the hobby? I say yes, even if just for the reasons you cited assuming it's utter shit (and we don't know how good/bad, woke/unwoke it is yet).

Ive been ripped off by Kobold before and so the coral snake is still the coral snake and Black Flag I will be expecting to be another standard substandard cash in by them. If not an outright rip-off. Once burned. Twice burned. Not buying the "but they have changed!" gag again.

I don't expect them to have changed. I don't expect them to not be infested with SJWs. I simply expect participating in and talking about the playtest to maintain ill will against WotC, so they don't get away with their bullshit. And I expect Black Flag to spread out the defection from D&D 5e over two systems instead of the otherwise most likely result which is for them to go straight to PF2e.

I'm not sure what to do here. Kobold/Black Flag are obvious SJW Dangerhairs who probably cannot be trusted, but the ruthlessly evil 800 lb Gorilla of Hasbro needs to be taken down a peg or two. For now, I will just sit back and watch the shitshow, while quietly boycotting Hasbro.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2023, 05:03:51 PM »
If WotC really had the power to go after anyone who published a Not-D&D game with D&D-ish contents, TSR  would have chased down Palladium, Chaosium, Games Workshop (Warhammer) and most importantly, Origins (Ultima), Wizardry and Blizzard (Warcraft) back in the 80s and 90s.

The first went after WotC, and the second TSR, for incorporating elements from their D&Dish games. And WotC went after someone for making Rust Monster plushies. So if you don't think they'll go after folks using things like Gelatinous Cubes and other IP which originated with D&D you're out of luck, as I'm all out of bridges to sell.

In the 2022 domestic box office, MCU movies were still #2 and #3 of the top five. Here they are:

#1.  Top Gun: Maverick -> $718M
#2.  Black Panther: Wakanda Forever -> $436M
#3.  Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness -> $411M
#4.  Avatar: The Way of Water -> $401M
#5.  Jurassic World: Dominion -> $376M

Note that Avatar: The Way of Water is only #4 because it came out just before the new year. It has gone on to make $578M domestically and is currently still the top movie in the U.S.

I think there's clearly still a big market for CGI sci-fi/fantasy action movies.

And it's going to have to make those numbers in order to be worth it in the eyes of Hasbro.

Also keep in mind they're trying to establish a lifestyle brand, so the movie must have enough identifiable and emulatable D&Dism to do that. And we're not just talking action figures here. So are any of the characters iconic enough to cosplay? Are there elements of the world which can be smoothly transitioned into our daily lives? Because so far it doesn't seem so.

Unfortunately, I don't think any of that matters any more:

https://twitter.com/KoboldPress/status/1617915504710111232
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Reintroducing Chelsea Steverson, who's now our Marketing Director!

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Meet the senior game designer for the project:

https://twitter.com/cconowitch

If you had ANY doubts it was gonna be woke as fuck.

Black Flag? More like RED Flag. Amirite?

Seriously though I hate that this is a reasonable conclusion to make.

Black Flag is not going to save the D&D community.

From the newest Kobold Press newsletter, see image below.

And speaking of red, @little_red_dot was one of the multiple women assaulted by Kobold Press freelancer and GenCon staffer Daisy Grant, who roomed with her during the Con. At least Kobold Press made a statement, which is more than I can say of GenCon. So despite all the safety tools and safe space advocacy these folks seem completely oblivious to the bad actors within their midst. And had Daisy not been trans I'm certain this would have been addressed far sooner. Because it's not that trans people are more likely to do this sort of thing, but that these folks are less likely to hold them accountable when they do, and until that changes these spaces will remain unsafe.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2023, 03:13:17 PM »
I'm not sure what to do here. Kobold/Black Flag are obvious SJW Dangerhairs who probably cannot be trusted, but the ruthlessly evil 800 lb Gorilla of Hasbro needs to be taken down a peg or two. For now, I will just sit back and watch the shitshow, while quietly boycotting Hasbro.

With WotC's conditional surrender, I think a lot of the wind has been taken out of the sails of ORC as well as Kobold and Black Flag. They're probably going to go ahead with it anyway, but I don't see the benefit to participating in the playtest and giving them exposure anymore. So just sit back and watch is the best.

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Re: Project Black Flag Playtests
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2023, 03:21:35 PM »
I'm not sure what to do here. Kobold/Black Flag are obvious SJW Dangerhairs who probably cannot be trusted, but the ruthlessly evil 800 lb Gorilla of Hasbro needs to be taken down a peg or two. For now, I will just sit back and watch the shitshow, while quietly boycotting Hasbro.

With WotC's conditional surrender, I think a lot of the wind has been taken out of the sails of ORC as well as Kobold and Black Flag. They're probably going to go ahead with it anyway, but I don't see the benefit to participating in the playtest and giving them exposure anymore. So just sit back and watch is the best.

The benefit?

Besides helping reduce Wotzi's share of the market if even by a small percentage? Yeah I also don't see the benefit on giving them exposure...

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