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Problems with gaming stores and gamers.

Started by Arkansan, June 11, 2013, 09:11:44 PM

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mcbobbo

Quote from: TristramEvans;663420Yeah, the easiest way to tell a real high-functioning autistic from a self-diagnosed douchebag is if they use it is an excuse or motivation.

One small point about the genuinely autistic, and I'll let it go - to them, you're the weird one.

That's how you tell.
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Emperor Norton

Quote from: jeff37923;663500They think it is a loss leader.

You keep saying this term like it has a negative definition in and of itself.

Free RPG Day is by definition a loss leader. A loss leader isn't negative, its a marketing technique. Maybe you should like, look up what the term means...

(Also, I wasn't too interested in any of the Free RPG Day stuff, but I did pick up the Edge of the Empire adventure for my brother since he is really into that system.)

taustin

Quote from: Emperor Norton;663618You keep saying this term like it has a negative definition in and of itself.

Free RPG Day is by definition a loss leader. A loss leader isn't negative, its a marketing technique. Maybe you should like, look up what the term means...

Indeed. All advertising is loss leader. Except the kind that's free on the internet, and that's usually a loss causer, because there's no good way to be famous on the internet.

3rik

I've avoided a certain part of a store due to the squeaky voices and annoying laughing originating from it but never a whole store.
It\'s not Its

"It\'s said that governments are chiefed by the double tongues" - Ten Bears (The Outlaw Josey Wales)

@RPGbericht

jeff37923

Quote from: Emperor Norton;663618You keep saying this term like it has a negative definition in and of itself.

To the owners of Nord's Games and Sci-Fi City, along with their partners at Studio 2 Publishing, it does.

Quote from: Emperor Norton;663618Free RPG Day is by definition a loss leader. A loss leader isn't negative, its a marketing technique. Maybe you should like, look up what the term means...

Maybe you are just being a douchebag here in assuming that I do not know what the term means. Remember, I participated in Free RPG Day and support the effort, I am explaining why a chain of LGS does not. Get with the program, genius.
"Meh."

The Butcher

Quote from: taustin;663632All advertising is loss leader. Except the kind that's free on the internet, and that's usually a loss causer, because there's no good way to be famous on the internet.

Alas, if only I had space for another quote in my sig.

Emperor Norton

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Quote from: jeff37923;663773Maybe you are just being a douchebag here in assuming that I do not know what the term means. Remember, I participated in Free RPG Day and support the effort, I am explaining why a chain of LGS does not. Get with the program, genius.

No, your words didn't support that you knew what the term meant.

Let me walk it through this so maybe you can catch on:

Quote from: jeff37923;663024No, Origins was not a factor. The upper management of your game store chain have stated that they will never participate in Free RPG Day because they believe that it is a loss-leader and will not result in enough additional sales of their part-owners products, Studio 2 Publishing.

Context does not support that you know what it means. You say that the store sees it as a loss leader, you then go on to actually say something that makes SENSE, but your use of the word loss leader is silly because you might as well say "They think free rpg day is an event" as a reason they don't participate. Its not a false belief and its 100% true that its an event, it has no bearing on the reason they wouldn't do it.

Quote from: jeff37923;663500I haven't heard that Studio 2 Publishing is against Free RPG Day, but they find no advantage in participating in it. They think it is a loss leader.

Once again, you use the term loss leader as it is something they believe it is, and therefore that is why they don't participate. THE CONTEXT MAKES THE FACT THAT THEY THINK ITS A LOSS LEADER SOUND SIGNIFICANT RATHER THAN JUST BEING FACTUALLY CORRECT.

So how about if you knew what the term means, you actually structure your posts in ways that don't make it sound like you don't. Or are we going to play "you're a douchebag because you point out that I might not be as smart as I think I am".

Suck it up. You weren't explaining yourself very well and it can easily lead to misunderstandings. I'll accept that maybe you are aware of what the term means, but I'm also going to tell you that you weren't using it in a way that sounded like you did. Deal with it.

Also, absolutely NONE OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU SUPPORT FREE RPG DAY OR NOT, so I have no idea where that came from.

jeff37923

Quote from: Emperor Norton;663918Whargarbl.

You know, if you paid attention to what I wrote and didn't listen to the voices in your head, you might be able to understand things easier.

It may also help if you weren't busy trying to be a douchebag about it.
"Meh."

Emperor Norton

Whatever, man.

You communicated perfectly. Yep.

You guys seem so quick to resort to insults the moment someone thinks you might just might be saying you are wrong about something. Notice that I didn't resort to insults in either of the above posts. I actually supported you know, the argument I was making.

I guess that might just be a bit too complex for you, so maybe I'll just resort to your level: You are a dumb dumb doodoo head.

Man that was so much more mature than defending my actual point, I'm glad this forum isn't filled like catpissmen like that poor place rpg.net.

mcbobbo

Quote from: Emperor Norton;663946Man that was so much more mature than defending my actual point, I'm glad this forum isn't filled like catpissmen like that poor place rpg.net.

Don't take it personally.  This is a PvP server, if you will.  Sometimes you just get attacked because it's allowed. As if for practice.  Or worse, dogpiled.

If it matters, the rest of us can see the posts and judge who makes the best points whether or not those having their slapfight ever surrender.
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Rincewind1

Quote from: mcbobbo;663958Don't take it personally.  This is a PvP server, if you will.  Sometimes you just get attacked because it's allowed. As if for practice.  Or worse, dogpiled.

If it matters, the rest of us can see the posts and judge who makes the best points whether or not those having their slapfight ever surrender.

If it matters, you need to get off the forums, because you're turning into Ron Paul lookalike.

Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

jeff37923

Quote from: Emperor Norton;663946Whatever, man.

You communicated perfectly. Yep.

You guys seem so quick to resort to insults the moment someone thinks you might just might be saying you are wrong about something. Notice that I didn't resort to insults in either of the above posts. I actually supported you know, the argument I was making.

I guess that might just be a bit too complex for you, so maybe I'll just resort to your level: You are a dumb dumb doodoo head.

Man that was so much more mature than defending my actual point, I'm glad this forum isn't filled like catpissmen like that poor place rpg.net.

OK, let us look at what you posted:

Quote from: Emperor Norton;663618You keep saying this term like it has a negative definition in and of itself.

Free RPG Day is by definition a loss leader. A loss leader isn't negative, its a marketing technique. Maybe you should like, look up what the term means...
(Also, I wasn't too interested in any of the Free RPG Day stuff, but I did pick up the Edge of the Empire adventure for my brother since he is really into that system.)

Now, I took the tone of this as you talking down to me like a douchebag, especially the bolded part. Now that is nothing new, the Internet and self-important douchebags are very complimentary to one another.

What is new is this site and its very limited Moderation policy, which gives offensive douchebags no shielding when they are being douchebags. They can be treated how they are acting, which is a wonderful freedom.

I responded to the tone that you took with me. If you do not like being responded to in that manner, maybe you should check your own tone that you are using in posts.

Because you could have just stated, "I'm not understanding you here. Would you mind clearing this up?" without trying to be insulting. Unless common courtesy is beneath you.

Is that clear enough for you now?
"Meh."

taustin

Quote from: jeff37923;663932You know, if you paid attention to what I wrote and didn't listen to the voices in your head, you might be able to understand things easier.

It may also help if you weren't busy trying to be a douchebag about it.

The way you used the term "loss leader," as a reason to not participate, without any futher explanation, implied (to those of us familiar with out businesses use the term) that it is inherently bad. If you'd said "They didn't participate because it's a loss leader and they don't do that kind of marketing, this circle jerk wouldn't be happening. But just saying "They didn't ... because it's a loss leader" without anything more comes across the same as "they didn't . . . because it causes babies to cry." There is an implication that loss leaders are inherently a bad idea. And that simply isn't true.

That it's a loss leader, in and of itself, isn't a reason to not participate.

taustin

Quote from: Rincewind1;663962If it matters, you need to get off the forums, because you're turning into Ron Paul lookalike.

B-b-b but . . .


jeff37923

Quote from: taustin;663970The way you used the term "loss leader," as a reason to not participate, without any futher explanation, implied (to those of us familiar with out businesses use the term) that it is inherently bad. If you'd said "They didn't participate because it's a loss leader and they don't do that kind of marketing, this circle jerk wouldn't be happening. But just saying "They didn't ... because it's a loss leader" without anything more comes across the same as "they didn't . . . because it causes babies to cry." There is an implication that loss leaders are inherently a bad idea. And that simply isn't true.

That it's a loss leader, in and of itself, isn't a reason to not participate.

See, you didn't seem like a douchebag at all when you posted that. Why can't Emperor Norton learn this skill?
"Meh."