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Author Topic: Battle of the 4th Edition Predictions  (Read 3153 times)

ColonelHardisson

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« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2006, 01:27:14 PM »
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I don't think it would be a "rebuilt" edition. I think it would just be a bloated, cumbersome book. Who needs 4000 spells 2000 feats, and 300 PrCs?


Christ, if that's what I was proposing, then I'd agree. But that's NOT what I was proposing. Give me some credit. I said put in the stuff - as in, rules that speed up play and other stuff like the new stat block - that has been proven to work and get rid of the stuff that doesn't. I didn't say add in every single fucking spell and prestige class ever made. Keep the core spells as they are, essentially. Same with Prestige Classes. Maybe add in a few that fit an archetype that hasn't been covered before, and that's it. There's been a helluva lot more stuff done out there than just spells and prestige classes.
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« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2006, 02:52:45 PM »
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Anyways, have any other industry sorts made predictions about 4th edition?



Matthew Sprange from Mongoose thinks 2007:

http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=5627397&postcount=42
 

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« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2006, 03:01:15 PM »
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Matthew Sprange from Mongoose thinks 2007:

http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=5627397&postcount=42
BTW, anyone know when the new edition of Runequest is supposed to be out?
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« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2006, 03:04:00 PM »
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BTW, anyone know when the new edition of Runequest is supposed to be out?


Mongoose's website says mid-2006.
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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2006, 03:09:14 PM »
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BTW, anyone know when the new edition of Runequest is supposed to be out?


Looks like it's going to be using yet another game system if I'm reading the info on the website right.
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« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2006, 03:12:58 PM »
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Looks like it's going to be using yet another game system if I'm reading the info on the website right.
That's alright by me.  I only played Runequest once a long time ago.  

Mid 2006?  So it could be out in a couple of months then.  Cool!
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« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2006, 03:24:24 PM »
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Looks like it's going to be using yet another game system if I'm reading the info on the website right.

Well looks like that kills my want and desire for it...:(
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« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2006, 03:24:48 PM »
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Looks like it's going to be using yet another game system if I'm reading the info on the website right.


Not necessarily. It says that it builds upon previous editions, and that Stafford is involved. My guess is that it'll be a real revamp of the game along the lines of what was done with Warhammer.
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« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2006, 03:25:48 PM »
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Well looks like that kills my want and desire for it...:(


I wouldn't jump to that conclusion just yet. It can be read more than one way.
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« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2006, 03:27:15 PM »
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Not necessarily. It says that it builds upon previous editions, and that Stafford is involved. My guess is that it'll be a real revamp of the game along the lines of what was done with Warhammer.


Maybe. However it does say specifically "new system". Not that I consider that either a positive or negative. Just something I noticed.

The only edition of Runequest I've ever played was the first.
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« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2006, 04:54:19 PM »
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IMO, the differences between 1e AD&D and 2e AD&D were, overall, no more significant than the differences between 3e D&D and 3.5 D&D.  (In both cases, material for either 'edition' could be used with little difficulty with the other 'edition'.)  Indeed, AFAICT, the differences between 3e and 3.5 are greater than those between 1e and 2e.


Whilst I think you have a valid point for the PHB and DMG, that was NOT true for the changes from the 1e MM to the 2e Monstrous Compendium.  THAT was a whole 'nother game.  Take any 1e module and throw in the 2e monsters and you have a whole different, much tougher adventure.

I think people ignore that too much when they compare editions.  2e really was different, just for that.
 

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« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2006, 05:37:17 PM »
Depends on which monsters. The dragons and giants sure got toughened up, but I'm not so sure about the rest.
 

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« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2006, 07:15:45 PM »
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Depends on which monsters. The dragons and giants sure got toughened up, but I'm not so sure about the rest.
...and powerful undead, and outsiders.  At least.  A large section of the iconic monsters got a big power boost.
 

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« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2006, 05:10:47 PM »
I think making a 4th edition not OGL would be close to killing it - all the companies that support 3.5 today would keep supporting that edition but not be allowed to publish material for 4th ed - the incentive for players to switch to the new edition would be very weak.

Unless 4th edition is so similar to 3.5 that you could use 3.5 material with the new edition, that is.