And the feats... in the Complete books, about 5% to 15% of the feats are actually interesting to pick up, the rest not giving a good enough prize, considering the rarity of feat slots that the players suffer from.

Perusing the feats of PH2, at least half of them made me think "cool... looks worth it".

The armor specialization one is VERY interesting, especially coupled with an adamantium full plate and a high level knight. And an adamantium breast plate on a barbarian. Just really cool.

Hmm.

I've been looking at this for a bit now, reading what's out there about it.

And I keep thinking that with it out, I'd want to run a game with it, the PHB, both DMG books, the big book of spells, and a book each for setting and monsters.

Seven books.

More than that, and the number of special rules would start to pick at me.  Well, actually, even that size bugs me some, but it's not like that's anything bad about the game line - seven books is pretty close to a baseline "to use" list for any well-supported game line, to me.

That some of the stuff resembles MMORPG stuff is, to me, both a good and bad sign.

The good: WotC learns from successful models.  Awesome.

The bad: Getting close to MMORPG-style content raises the obvious question of "why not just play that?".

Between picking this up or True20, true20 wins hands down.  The Knight class is interesting but I a majority of those abilities are just going to get you killed quick.  You are already going to be in the front line taking the brunt of combat and many of those feats just ensure that you'll be targeted more then anyone else.  I can see them being useful at higher levels when you have the uber equipment to start shrugging off blows.  But at lower levels you'd be pulp if you start putting most of them into effect.

Now what would be very interesting is a group of knights fighting.  They could pass the damage around and totally control a fight.  That's got huge potential.  Overall though, I'm thinking splice the Knight with a Paladin and you've got a definite winner.

Quote from: Levi KornelsenSeven books.

More than that, and the number of special rules would start to pick at me.  Well, actually, even that size bugs me some, but it's not like that's anything bad about the game line - seven books is pretty close to a baseline "to use" list for any well-supported game line, to me.

To me, that's way too much.

My ideal game uses one book for all rules-based information.  If there's one rules supplement, I can use that, too.  If all the spells - all of them - are in one single book, I would use that as well.

Beyond that, I only want monster/encounter books that I can use when I need them, and put away otherwise.

-O

Another thing...

That retroactive thingy (for choosable class features, feats, skills), I've been implementing it in my games as a house rule for at least a year now. Basically, it costs 100 xp per spell level of spell, 100 xp per skill rank, and 1000 xp per feat, and the change takes a number of days per 100 xp to apply.

I wonder how they'll do it, I might stick to my version if it sucks.

Quote from: YigGuess it was to be expected.

Link.

Might pick this up.

The knight class looks interesting.

I'll be picking up a copy... and it seems I need to find the Complete Psionics as I must have missed it.

Quote from: BolverkI'll be picking up a copy... and it seems I need to find the Complete Psionics as I must have missed it.

just came out last month.

DMG2 didn't impress me much.  i saw stuff in there that looked interesting, but not enough to get me to buy the book, or really, even give it a second perusal as of yet.  unfortunately, that has colored my perception of PHB2.    still, i'll have a look at it.

I called a FLGS today and they said they should have it next week.

Woohoo!