Yeah, none of that has a parallel in any historical culture I know about.  But it sounds like what a Comparative Studies 101 student would imagine it should be like.

It still strikes me as absolutely sophomoric while full of pretense of sophisticated intellectualism.

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Quote from: Loz;601260Gloranthan Heroquesting The myths themselves are essentially unassailable (the God Learners screwed with them centuries before and got their arses kicked for doing so).

Heh, heh... we Borovichi are going to do it right

Quote from: RPGPundit;601474Yeah, none of that has a parallel in any historical culture I know about.  But it sounds like what a Comparative Studies 101 student would imagine it should be like.

It still strikes me as absolutely sophomoric while full of pretense of sophisticated intellectualism.

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That might entirely depend on the GM. I do get what you're saying though. Most of the "wierd" settings come across that way to me (Tekumel, Talislanta, Glorantha), but none of them are as bad as Blue Rose when it comes to pretension, and even that setting I can adapt and overlook the crap to make a decent game out of it. Plus, that really has little to do with the modern RQ rules anymore. Suit yourself though brother. RQ's (and Glorantha) certainly not for everyone.

The implied setting in RQ6 could easily be done away with by any canny Gamemaster.

Behind the scenes lay a very well thought out product. I firmly stand by the opinion that its better balanced than the d20 detritus that continues to litter the landscape with the +1 this, +5 that mathsnore.

Quote from: ZWEIHÄNDER;601481The implied setting in RQ6 could easily be done away with by any canny Gamemaster.

Behind the scenes lay a very well thought out product. I firmly stand by the opinion that its better balanced than the d20 detritus that continues to litter the landscape with the +1 this, +5 that mathsnore.

The implied setting in RQ6 isn't Glorantha, it's Bronze Age Sword and Sorcery.

Quote from: CRKrueger;601491The implied setting in RQ6 isn't Glorantha, it's Bronze Age Sword and Sorcery.

I wouldn't go so far as to name it "Bronze Age" or "Iron Age" because (e.g.) even in RQ3 the arms and armor lists presume a lot of Late Medieval technology like plate armor and two-handed swords.

Nevertheless, there's a lot about RQ that suggests Antiquity, rather than D&D's stereotypically Medievalesque milieu. Which is why I just use "Ancient Fantasy" by force of analogy with "Medieval Fantasy" (a common descriptor for D&D's implied setting in my gaming circles).

Quote from: Sigmund;601480That might entirely depend on the GM. I do get what you're saying though. Most of the "wierd" settings come across that way to me (Tekumel, Talislanta, Glorantha), but none of them are as bad as Blue Rose when it comes to pretension,

Its a very different kind of pretentiousness.

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Greg Stafford talks a bit about myth and the origins of Glorantha on the Kickstarter page for the guide:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/224590870/the-guide-to-glorantha
A bit of a mystery why these short videos are split into three parts and why they haven't been flagged up as an update but illuminating nevertheless.

I have a question:

Does the printed guide and atlas already contain a big folded map of Glorantha, or just the 200,00 reward level has it ?

Can someone clarify?

Quote from: silva;601746I have a question:

Does the printed guide and atlas already contain a big folded map of Glorantha, or just the 200,00 reward level has it ?

Can someone clarify?

I would say anything not specifically listed at any tier will not be included. For example, PDFs are not automatically included if you buy printed copies. The place to ask questions and get more info is here:
http://moondesignpublications.com/forums/glorantha-discussions/discuss-kickstart-guide-glorantha

Quote from: CRKrueger;601491The implied setting in RQ6 isn't Glorantha, it's Bronze Age Sword and Sorcery.

Yes, the setting of RuneQuest hasn't been Glorantha since the times of RQ3. That's more than 20 years.

Quote from: The Butcher;601537I wouldn't go so far as to name it "Bronze Age" or "Iron Age" because (e.g.) even in RQ3 the arms and armor lists presume a lot of Late Medieval technology like plate armor and two-handed swords.

Nevertheless, there's a lot about RQ that suggests Antiquity, rather than D&D's stereotypically Medievalesque milieu. Which is why I just use "Ancient Fantasy" by force of analogy with "Medieval Fantasy" (a common descriptor for D&D's implied setting in my gaming circles).

100% agreed. It's a mishmash of medieval and iron age.

Quote from: RPGPundit;600791Most myths are not themselves based on the heroes re-enacting earlier myths. That's not how myth works.

And most myths in Glorantha are not created that way.

Myths are the stories of deities and Heroes. They describe what the deity/hero did and what the consequences were.

One of the strengths of Glorantha, for me, is that the myths can be interacted with, can be changed and new myths can be created.

Whether they work that way in the real world is as important as whether air can be made into a hammer in the real world. Many game worlds have things that don't work the same as the real world. Glorantha is such a world setting.

Glorantha is not the real world.

Glorantha myths work differently. A person who becomes a god makes his/her own myths. Those myths can be used by the new deity's worshippers. They can build on those myths and become Heroes in their own right.

I've never studied Comparative Mythology, but I understood how Glorantha uses myths almost as soon as I read about them.

I understand it too, I just don't like it.  There's something post-modernist about it (or about its underlying assumptions?) that annoys me.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;602206I understand it too, I just don't like it.  There's something post-modernist about it (or about its underlying assumptions?) that annoys me.

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Annoying to you, cool to us.  30 years of fun can't be wrong!

Chaosium RQ2 was my first post-AD&D gaming experience, and it's world and setting have always proven more fun than traditional D&D experiences. When I was 13, I was like, "Look at this! Alignment doesn't make any damned sense! People don't need some arbitrary BS OOC game rules to not act like jerks - the setting makes people act believably!"

I am very pleased by the concurrent BRP and Glorantha renaissance movements. It's a form of old school gaming that I enjoy immensely.

Glorantha is only post-modernist when you look at stuff in an OOC way.  Aside from that, it's pretty classicist.  People in Glorantha generally don't change myths unless they're God Learners (with all respect to Soltakss)

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;602593People in Glorantha generally don't change myths unless they're God Learners (with all respect to Soltakss)

Except, the Broken Council, Nysalor, Arkat, The Seven Mothers, Sartar, the founders of the EWF, Alakoring Dragonbreaker, Argrath ...