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Fleshing out Dungeon Crawl Classics to provide a D&Dish experience?

Started by RabidWookie, June 02, 2015, 11:10:27 PM

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Brad

Quote from: AsenRG;835056Believe it or not, this approah makes more sense to me than endless lists of equipment I'm not going to use anyway. I mean, books are finite, and if you had to choose between the whole Patrons mehanic and a list of equipment you have in many other books, which would you rather have?

Just get C&S 2nd edition if you need a list of equipment. It's literally everything you could possibly think of, along with weights and prices.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

AsenRG

Quote from: Brad;835064Just get C&S 2nd edition if you need a list of equipment. It's literally everything you could possibly think of, along with weights and prices.
I've got ACKS already for that, but yeah, that's exactly my point:D!
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Brad

Quote from: AsenRG;835066I've got ACKS already for that, but yeah, that's exactly my point:D!

Absolutely. Too bad this is out of print...
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

RabidWookie

Quote from: AsenRG;835056Believe it or not, this approah makes more sense to me than endless lists of equipment I'm not going to use anyway. I mean, books are finite, and if you had to choose between the whole Patrons mehanic and a list of equipment you have in many other books, which would you rather have?

Of course,  not all approaches appeal equally to everyonne, but calling it a cop-out is going too far IMO.

You could take out stuff like the adventures that will only get used once or twice and put those online instead to make room, and an equipment list doesn't need to take up a ton of space.  Or release an Advanced DCC supplement, I know Goodman is anti-splat book and I applaud him for that but one supplement book isn't going to hurt anything.

AsenRG

Quote from: Brad;835087Absolutely. Too bad this is out of print...
:D

Quote from: RabidWookie;835111You could take out stuff like the adventures that will only get used once or twice and put those online instead to make room,
That's even more room freed, not an argument to put the equipment lists back (especially since I'm going to have to change them for my setting anyway:)).

Quoteand an equipment list doesn't need to take up a ton of space.
ACKS seems to think otherwise. Or look at the supplement Brad linked to;).  

QuoteOr release an Advanced DCC supplement, I know Goodman is anti-splat book and I applaud him for that but one supplement book isn't going to hurt anything.
Releasing Advanced DCC would imply that everyone not using it isn't "advanced". Again, I'm fully with Goodman's position.
Besides, the goal of DCC isn't to give the players a D&D-like experience. It's to give them the experience D&D was going for, but didn't quite succeed, namely of being an S&S character;). Long equipment lists are more or less counter-productive to that.
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RabidWookie

Quote from: AsenRG;835191:D


That's even more room freed, not an argument to put the equipment lists back (especially since I'm going to have to change them for my setting anyway:)).


ACKS seems to think otherwise. Or look at the supplement Brad linked to;).  


Releasing Advanced DCC would imply that everyone not using it isn't "advanced". Again, I'm fully with Goodman's position.
Besides, the goal of DCC isn't to give the players a D&D-like experience. It's to give them the experience D&D was going for, but didn't quite succeed, namely of being an S&S character;). Long equipment lists are more or less counter-productive to that.


Ok, how about "DCC Arcana"?

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Quote from: RabidWookie;835311Ok, how about "DCC Arcana"?

I would buy and play the hell out of a more AD&Desque DCC, whatever it's called. DCC Arcana would be a good name.

AsenRG

Quote from: RabidWookie;835311Ok, how about "DCC Arcana"?

You mean another Patrons supplement, I guess;)?
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You know, the Appendix P rules that I've put in an appendix at the back of the Dark Albion book (to be released very soon!) has a somewhat DCC-esque feel to it, but is closer to old-school D&D.
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