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Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Matt on June 05, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
Has there ever been a hardcover edition of Pendragon? My paperback is tattered and torn and I'd much rather have a nice hardcover that will withstand my usage.
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Jason D on June 05, 2015, 09:49:42 AM
5th edition was in hardcover.

http://www.gspendragon.com/publicationhistory/2000s.html#KAP5
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Jason D on June 05, 2015, 09:51:29 AM
And apparently 5.1 is available as a POD hardcover:

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/81449/King-Arthur-Pendragon-Edition-51
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: kobayashi on June 05, 2015, 09:54:43 AM
You can find the 5.1 edition in hardcover (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/81449/King-Arthur-Pendragon-Edition-51), on drivethru the 5th edition is only available in softcover I'm afraid.
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Matt on June 05, 2015, 10:11:54 AM
Hmm...I have 4th currently and like it a lot due to the many options incorporated from prior supplements.  Any experts know what the differences are betwixt 4th and "5.1"?
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Armchair Gamer on June 05, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: Matt;835175
Hmm...I have 4th currently and like it a lot due to the many options incorporated from prior supplements.  Any experts know what the differences are betwixt 4th and "5.1"?

5.1 strips the game back down to its essential core, removes the magic system and shifts the default starting point from the middle of Arthur's reign to the start of Uther's.

4th Edition is also available from DriveThruRPG, but only in PDF. It's a $10 PDF, so you might be able to find someplace to get it printed and bound for a reasonable overall investment.
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 07, 2015, 11:23:02 PM
5e, combined with the Great Pendragon Campaign book (also a hardcover) is the true masterpiece of Pendragon.
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Matt on June 08, 2015, 12:44:10 AM
Okay, why the Great Pendragon Campaign? Don't have it (or 5th, for that matter).
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Jason D on June 09, 2015, 04:24:50 AM
It's heralded as one of the most epic campaigns ever published.

It spans about 80 years and handles multiple generations of knight player-characters, spanning the time between the middle of Uther's reign to the death of Arthur. It even covers advances in arms, armor, fortifications, and culture during the eight periods it addresses.

It contains writeups of many key locations, around 50ish creatures, tons of major NPCs, and incorporates a possible hundred scenarios (some are just adventure seeds, others more fleshed out).

The only complaints I've ever heard about it are that it lacks an index, and that at times, the scenarios have a lot of "your knights are there when this important thing happens", rather than being them participating in the actual events. It is not a ready-to-use book, but instead is a campaign road-map.
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: Armchair Gamer on June 09, 2015, 10:00:57 AM
Quote from: Jason D;835781

The only complaints I've ever heard about it are that it lacks an index, and that at times, the scenarios have a lot of "your knights are there when this important thing happens", rather than being them participating in the actual events. It is not a ready-to-use book, but instead is a campaign road-map.


  Huh. A PDF index exists--I've got a copy on my hard drive dated from August 2006--but it doesn't appear to be on DriveThruRPG or anywhere else online.

  Given that it's 18 pages long, I understand why it didn't get included in the print edition, but I'm surprised that it's fallen through the cracks of the Internet.
Title: Pendragon hardcover?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 11, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: Matt;835629
Okay, why the Great Pendragon Campaign? Don't have it (or 5th, for that matter).


The GPC is indeed probably the greatest campaign book ever written for any RPG ever.

It gives you all the material you need to run an 80-game-year campaign.  Note: it doesn't quite do all the work, but it gives you all the framework to handle it.

I hope that with Dark Albion: The Rose War, I've managed to done something that at least comes close to how awesome the GPC is, in terms of giving GMs everything they need to know for a 30-year long campaign.