http://paizo.com/pathfinderplaytest

Let the beatings begin!

JG

Paizo finally bowed to the inevitable - you can only print splatbooks for so long.

Doesn't sound too compelling. Alchemist in core I don't need. More Wayne Reynolds art I don't need.

What I wish is that Paizo duel stat their Adventure Paths for Pathfinder and 5e. That would be awesome.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderplaytest/faq

Sounds like 3e (D&D) is pretty much dead, 2e Pathfinder will be more like 5e. Maybe even 5e based, not 3e based.

QuoteAll of the varied systems and formulas for determining your character's bonuses and statistics, like saving throws, attack bonuses, and skills, have been unified in a single, easy-to-use proficiency system based on your choices and your character's level. You no longer need to collect a specific set of magic items to be a balanced character, relying on specific magical statistic bonuses. Instead, you get all of the bonuses you need from your regular armor and weapons, allowing the rest of your items to be truly wondrous.

Wait, the playtest rulebook comes in a deluxe foil-embossed collector's version? What the hell?

Quote from: JeremyR;1028228http://paizo.com/pathfinderplaytest/faq

Sounds like 3e (D&D) is pretty much dead, 2e Pathfinder will be more like 5e. Maybe even 5e based, not 3e based.

The impression I got (in reference to the FAQ regarding Starfinder) is that Starfinder's rules differences were part of what they were using for their 2nd Ed prototype, so in regard to whether SF is to be converted to the new edition, the new edition is already "baked in" to first edition Starfinder.
Not sure how I feel about that.

jg

Quote from: HappyDaze;1028232Wait, the playtest rulebook comes in a deluxe foil-embossed collector's version? What the hell?

Sad part is that people will buy it.

Quote from: James Gillen;1028233The impression I got (in reference to the FAQ regarding Starfinder) is that Starfinder's rules differences were part of what they were using for their 2nd Ed prototype, so in regard to whether SF is to be converted to the new edition, the new edition is already "baked in" to first edition Starfinder.
Not sure how I feel about that.

jg

Also known as "pulling a Star Wars Saga."

Quote from: Celestial;1028234Also known as "pulling a Star Wars Saga."

See - while I think 4e did pull from bits of Saga edition (which I like - when I dislike 4e) - I read from one of the Saga Edition designers that that wasn't the intention of Saga at all.

The only thing that bothers me about this playtest is "Goblin Player Characters" when one thing I liked about how Pathfinder changed the fluff from 3.5 was making goblins into crazy little mofos - where Eberron had made them evil leaning halflings. (though I enjoyed both in their own ways)

I just don't see how a Pathfinder goblin can be a decent PC out of silly modules like We Be Goblins without totally revising how they fit.  Heck - in Paizo's fluff goblins think that writing is evil juju trying to get into their heads or something wacky - which makes them be fun enemies - but poor PCs.

Everyone is saying they're making 5e-finder now. I wonder if they'll be able to do to 5e what they did to 4e?

So far the amount of salt is outstanding.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1028255Everyone is saying they're making 5e-finder now. I wonder if they'll be able to do to 5e what they did to 4e?

So far the amount of salt is outstanding.

To be a similar situation, they'd have to make 2nd Edition Pathfinder like 4th Edition D&D. I don't see that happening.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1028255So far the amount of salt is outstanding.

What!?  People on the internet hear about something and are instantly angry?  Shocker!

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1028256To be a similar situation, they'd have to make 2nd Edition Pathfinder like 4th Edition D&D. I don't see that happening.

I see it more as, "A 5e for people who want more options." Since there are a lot of those probably.

I am not a Paizo fan, but if the playtest version is free, I'd check it out.

But...the announcement sounds more like 5.5e instead of 3.75e.

From what I read from the FAQ the are trying to implement some 5E style changes without saying they are. I did not realize that 5E had hurt their profits that much.

They are adding Backgrounds and the simplified proficiency bonus system and emphasizing streamlining and getting rid of magic item necessity. That's all like 5e.

But there's some other stuff that's new, like using skills for initiative and 3 actions per turn, with things taking different amounts of actions... spellcasting taking an action for each component required (verbal, somatic, material), only Fighters being able to do AOOs, etc.

Still, I wonder how it'll shake out with 5e.