It looks like the are also to stop publishing the Rifter for now. Not surprised at all. Let's be honest it's better for them to go PDF instead of print to save on some costs. It was also not helped that it went from a vehicle for the company non-official material to being mostly official material. Which hurt the sales of the Rifter when Palladium has a bad habit or re-releasing the same material in a new book.

http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1021:palladium-booksr-weekly-update-november-29-2018&catid=52:weekly-updates&Itemid=183

We will see if it actually makes them focus on getting more books out I doubt. Between the owner of the company being a poster child for ADD and not being able to focus on a project. To making some complete and easily stoppable amateurish business mistakes. To running the company more as a club less a business we will see. Apparently they have been working some "Top Secret" project the last couple. Which has been the standard line of bullshit over the last couple of years. If it's not at the FLGs or out on Drivethrurpg in PDf it's just vaporware.

Going to be sad that the Rifter is ending after what... 20 years?

Is this still a rumour?

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1067057Is this still a rumour?

I haven't heard anything since.

Quote from: Apparition;1065337It was apparently announced during this year's Palladium Books open house that they plan to revise the Palladium system to be more rules light in 2020 for the upcoming 40th anniversary of Palladium Books, beginning with a new edition of Rifts.

Was anyone there?  Was there any more information given?

Say what! I never thought this day would come, but Kevin can burn in the fire, I'm still out $500+ of Robotech Wave 2!

I'm astounded the Rifter lasted as long as it did.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1067837I'm astounded the Rifter lasted as long as it did.

Seriously, me too.

jg

I mean, I'll say this for it: if you were a RIFTS fan, every issue had at least one or two really good sections. But it just blows my mind that a product like that, done in traditional print, could have kept being viable for as long as it was.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1068691I mean, I'll say this for it: if you were a RIFTS fan, every issue had at least one or two really good sections. But it just blows my mind that a product like that, done in traditional print, could have kept being viable for as long as it was.

Knowing Palladium and how at least to me they were afraid of admitting they made mistakes It probably stopped being viable awhile ago. Fans ( I know I did) told them to go the PDF route a LONG time ago. They kept publishing it anyway probably at a loss and it took them this long to at least this long to admit it might be wrong to keep publishing and losing money. PB as a company and Kevin is stupidly stubborn to a fault.

Quote from: sureshot;1068745Knowing Palladium and how at least to me they were afraid of admitting they made mistakes It probably stopped being viable awhile ago. Fans ( I know I did) told them to go the PDF route a LONG time ago. They kept publishing it anyway probably at a loss and it took them this long to at least this long to admit it might be wrong to keep publishing and losing money. PB as a company and Kevin is stupidly stubborn to a fault.

That seems plausible, albeit not provable.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1069391That seems plausible, albeit not provable.

Pundit one of the excuses they used was that they considered PDFs a fad that was not at all going to last in the rpg industry. Even though when they used that excuse PDfs had been in use for at least a decade. I wish I could find where they actually posted that. As well given their anti-tech stance with not upgrading to desktop publishing software for the longest time if they even have. With his Ex-wife claiming on their forums that Kevin is "faster" than a computer. Given the companies sheer collective stubbornness I could see them stupidly publishing the Rifter and losing money because they refuse to admit to making mistakes.

Their first attempt at a Rifts video game was on a platform no one  wanted except PB and a few die hard fans. Once again on their own forums they were told not to use the N-gage. Apparently the big reason for choosing that platform is that they were approached by the developers and no one else did so better to make a game that no one would buy instead of choosing a platform on where it would sell. With of course Kevin and by extension PB making excuses for the video game failure.

Ex-fans like myself are so hard on them because they never learn from mistakes. It's one thing if they were making a decent amount of money instead they are simply surviving and not thriving and seem to never learn from any previous mistakes.

So until I actually see concrete proof of a revision I remain very cautiously optimistic yet think it will be vaporware. With Kevin stupidly trying to Kickstarter the project yet again .

Quote from: sureshot;1069398With his Ex-wife claiming on their forums that Kevin is "faster" than a computer.

Not to derail or anything, but if memory serves she wasn't claiming that he was faster than an actual computer, just that he worked faster "his way" than he did utilizing a computer. The implication being, I think, that he wasn't comfortable with them and didn't really know how they worked.

I haven't played a Palladium game in years, but love their settings and sourcebook.  I think the system is clunky, though, and would love to see revised rules.

Quote from: WanderingMonster;1069441Not to derail or anything, but if memory serves she wasn't claiming that he was faster than an actual computer, just that he worked faster "his way" than he did utilizing a computer. The implication being, I think, that he wasn't comfortable with them and didn't really know how they worked.

Dont let facts get in the way of a small mans petty anger.

If somebody wants to license your property for a video game and nobody else does... You go where the money is. The N-Gage was five years too early and if Palladium could license their property to a Sont or Nintendo they would.

There havent been D&D video games for years let alone niche games. You're so full of crap.