Quote from: jeff37923Nice to see that it bothers a troll like you as well.

It doesn't bother, it amuses me. But nice to see my words cut so close that you stoop to slinging "troll!" mud at me.

Quote from: blakkieIt doesn't bother, it amuses me. But nice to see my words cut so close that you stoop to slinging "troll!" mud at me.

It's not stooping when it is the truth. Earlier comments directed towards me (QftI), your smarminess in this post, you're trolling. No mudslinging involved from my end, brother. Live with the label if you're going to act like the label.

Back on topic, Paizo reckon that there have been over 10,000 downloads of the Pathfinder .pdf over the last week.

Means nothing to eventual sales, but it's quite impressive.

Quote from: One Horse TownMeans nothing to eventual sales, but it's quite impressive.

It is indeed.

Of course, they've also already changed the rules, too.

Seanchai

Quote from: SeanchaiIt is indeed.

Of course, they've also already changed the rules, too.

Seanchai

Yep. I didn't reckon much of them to be honest.

Quote from: One Horse TownYep. I didn't reckon much of them to be honest.

Much of what to be honest - the rules or the downloads? If the latter, heck, in either case, what do you mean "honest"?

Quote from: James J SkachMuch of what to be honest - the rules or the downloads? If the latter, heck, in either case, what do you mean "honest"?

The rules.

Edit: Erm, honest means honest. It's a term where i come from. Sorry...

Quote from: James J SkachMuch of what to be honest - the rules or the downloads? If the latter, heck, in either case, what do you mean "honest"?

I think he just means he doesn't care for the rules? With "to be honest" at the end? As in implying that he is stating his honest opinion? Perhaps a forgotten comma?

Quote from: One Horse TownThe rules.

And the second question? I'm truly curious as to what you mean by rules that aren't "honest"..

Ahhh...beejazz helped me...missing comma. That makes sense now...

Quote from: beejazzI think he just means he doesn't care for the rules? With "to be honest" at the end? As in implying that he is stating his honest opinion? Perhaps a forgotten comma?

This.

My grammar radar has been off for a day or two. I don't think i've ever edited so many posts.

Quote from: SeanchaiOf course, they've also already changed the rules, too.

Which, I believe is in keeping with the whole notion of the "alpha" playtest they mentioned up front.

!i!

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaWhich, I believe is in keeping with the whole notion of the "alpha" playtest they mentioned up front.

Yeah. We certainly knew the rules we were looking at were far from the final ones. If what we're see now is a gigantic playtest that's basically open to the public, it's a just a touch odd to change the playtest rules day into the process.

But maybe it's not that.

I wonder if they'll update the playtest documents frequently.

I wonder if there'll be a lot of errata and post-production changes to the final product.

Seanchai

Quote from: SeanchaiYeah. We certainly knew the rules we were looking at were far from the final ones. If what we're see now is a gigantic playtest that's basically open to the public, it's a just a touch odd to change the playtest rules day into the process.

They probably had a flood of feedback coming in when they released the first draft - it's no wonder they're already finding things to tweak. I suspect many of these alterations are due to overwhelming popular demand.

QuoteI wonder if there'll be a lot of errata and post-production changes to the final product.

If they do this whole open playtest shebang right, there really shouldn't be too many post-production changes. If they can get even a fraction of the people who've downloaded the playtest document to run test games and give feedback, they'll have plenty of opportunities to iron out the kinks.

Quote from: WarthurIf they do this whole open playtest shebang right, there really shouldn't be too many post-production changes. If they can get even a fraction of the people who've downloaded the playtest document to run test games and give feedback, they'll have plenty of opportunities to iron out the kinks.

I wonder what the largest playtest has ever been - and will they, in a bit of a twist, get to claim the largest, most open playtest ever...

Assuming, as you say, enough people do so, of course...

Quote from: James J SkachI wonder what the largest playtest has ever been - and will they, in a bit of a twist, get to claim the largest, most open playtest ever...

Assuming, as you say, enough people do so, of course...

I think the open playtest is also a great marketting tool done in response to WotC's required NDA's and poor marketting of letting people just get enough of a hint of what's coming in 4E to start arguements.

They've claimed over 10,000 downloads of the Alpha Playtest document so far, right? That's no small number.