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Paizo policing language: Phalactery is now a Soul Cage

Started by sunsteel, October 30, 2021, 12:40:01 PM

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Shasarak

I am still getting used to the Paizo method of R B C character creation.

But I could have some pedantic fun* when the PCs destroy the wrong item because they have not been keeping up with language changes






*fun for me Gygax style
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

PsyXypher

Quote from: Shasarak on October 30, 2021, 06:01:52 PM
I am still getting used to the Paizo method of R B C character creation.

But I could have some pedantic fun* when the PCs destroy the wrong item because they have not been keeping up with language changes






*fun for me Gygax style

Honestly you could have probably fooled PCs by using an accurate phylactery (a box with papers in it) with a spooky looking emerald next to it. People are trained to see gems and think "SOULS!"
I am not X/Y/Z race. I am a mutant. Based and mutantpilled, if you will.

Shasarak

Quote from: PsyXypher on October 30, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on October 30, 2021, 06:01:52 PM
I am still getting used to the Paizo method of R B C character creation.

But I could have some pedantic fun* when the PCs destroy the wrong item because they have not been keeping up with language changes






*fun for me Gygax style

Honestly you could have probably fooled PCs by using an accurate phylactery (a box with papers in it) with a spooky looking emerald next to it. People are trained to see gems and think "SOULS!"

There is always the chance they would destroy the papers incase they stole the words from their heads
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Persimmon

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on October 30, 2021, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: DM_Curt on October 30, 2021, 01:09:38 PM
BTW:
When's the last time you heard of Elves, Dwarves and Halflings referred to,  collectively, as "Demihumans"?

   1999. The humans/demihumans/humanoids distinction went away with 3E, lumping everything into 'humanoid.'

  The change in and of itself doesn't bother me--phylactery has always been a misnomer for the main item in question. (The clerical magical items seem closer to the actual meaning.) Call me when they get Limbo right. :)

I only play old school games so I had no idea demi-humans had been replaced by a term that equates them with orcs, gnolls, and goblins.  But I am "edgy" enough to allow for half-orcs that are other than half-human, so they can be half-dwarf or whatever.  But what's a half-elf/half-orc offspring called?  Do you still get to claim your orc heritage for diversity benefits like priority magic college enrollment?

Krugus

When we first started playing, we used to call the Demi humans as Dummy humans (I was 13 at the time) and let them find all the traps!  :p
Common sense isn't common; if it were, everyone would have it.

Zalman

Paizo bans phylacteries, citing "the word's connotation with real‑world religious practices."

Yeah, um, because it's, you know, a real word. Yes Paizo, some nouns actually exist.

Oy vey iz mir.
Old School? Back in my day we just called it "School."

Krugus

If that's the case, the Witch class will need a name change due to real-world religious practices as well no?
Common sense isn't common; if it were, everyone would have it.

Manic Modron

Honest question, does anybody know of a lich who actually kept their soul in a phylactery?  Not just as a bit of gaming jargon, but an actual little wearable box to keep sacred text in?  Aside from an egg in a duck in a well on a hill on an island in a lake an improbable distance away, I can't think of something other than gems and jewelry kept in their version of a safety deposit box.

I don't give a shit about Paizo or Pathfinder in general, I'm just curious about this one thing.

RandyB

Quote from: Krugus on October 30, 2021, 07:57:21 PM
If that's the case, the Witch class will need a name change due to real-world religious practices as well no?

No. That religion is protected in the RPG industry.

BoxCrayonTales

Will this set a trend? Will other companies try to outwoke Paizo? Paradox maybe? I wonder what Paradox will do about their fictional cliques named after such things as Irish terrorists, Spanish bullfighters, random herbs, and other non-English words used in nonsensical contexts by Rein•Hagen that later writers tried to justify with questionable success. Their jargon is mostly just cringy, but some it could be argued as cultural appropriation.

Shasarak

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on October 30, 2021, 08:37:17 PM
Will this set a trend? Will other companies try to outwoke Paizo? Paradox maybe? I wonder what Paradox will do about their fictional cliques named after such things as Irish terrorists, Spanish bullfighters, random herbs, and other non-English words used in nonsensical contexts by Rein•Hagen that later writers tried to justify with questionable success. Their jargon is mostly just cringy, but some it could be argued as cultural appropriation.

It is part of a white persons culture to appropriate therefore only non-white people can be accused of cultural appropriation.

I mean there is no such thing as a non-English word, only words that have not yet entered the English lexicon.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Shasarak

Quote from: Manic Modron on October 30, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
Honest question, does anybody know of a lich who actually kept their soul in a phylactery?  Not just as a bit of gaming jargon, but an actual little wearable box to keep sacred text in?  Aside from an egg in a duck in a well on a hill on an island in a lake an improbable distance away, I can't think of something other than gems and jewelry kept in their version of a safety deposit box.

I don't give a shit about Paizo or Pathfinder in general, I'm just curious about this one thing.

I guess Vecna, Acererak and Larloch would be the most famous Lichs but I dont think there has been a story around their phylacteries though.



Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

SHARK

Greetings!

I think I recall something about Kostchie the Deathless, from Russian mythology, keeping his soul inside an egg, that was placed inside of a special box, which was then hidden and secured. The villain would live eternally, and always return from "death" unless the magic egg was found and destroyed. That was the only way of permanently defeating the mythical villain.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Theory of Games

#28
So .... is Paizo also going to drop the term "Cleric" as it belongs to the Catholic Church proper? With that the spell "thaumaturgy" as that ALSO belongs to the Catholics/Christians and relates to what a "Miracle" is? Will Paizo eliminate Dwarves because Tolkien based his on the Jewsih people - " 'The Dwarves of course are quite obviously – wouldn't you say that in many ways they remind you of the Jews?"

Tolkien.

Will Paizo eliminate the "Protection from Evil" spell as we all known evil is subjective. What one person calls evil might actually be righteous. What culture does "Protection from Evil" operate from? What really is "evil"?

If Orcs are D&D's culturally-failed misrepresentation of Black people why aren't there any Orc Kings over multi-racial populations? Why do most settings lack Orc revolutionaries pushing for social change among Human communities? Are there settings with Orc-only military units fighting for the rights of human civilizations that oppress the Orcs? Are there notable Orc activists who deliver an argument that destroys the establishment line?

"Woke" is some BS. It's just SJW hippies flexing their white-privilege in ways that does nothing for non-whites. It's bragging that you can paint bigger pictures than someone who hasn't eaten in days.
TTRPGs are just games. Friends are forever.

Marchand

Quote from: Theory of Games on October 30, 2021, 10:24:30 PM
Will Paizo eliminate Dwarves because Tolkien based his on the Jewsih people - " 'The Dwarves of course are quite obviously – wouldn't you say that in many ways they remind you of the Jews?"

Maybe (although I don't see it myself), but we are all missing the real injustice here, which is that Hollywood Dwarves are totally Scottish. And THAT is racialistical.
"If the English surrender, it'll be a long war!"
- Scottish soldier on the beach at Dunkirk