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Paizo decides to cancel Slavery from future products

Started by Abraxus, December 22, 2021, 09:37:59 AM

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Abraxus

December 22, 2021, 09:37:59 AM Last Edit: December 24, 2021, 08:11:55 AM by Abraxus
https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/12/21/pathfinder-tabletop-rpg-to-remove-slavery-from-our-game-and-setting-completely-will-provide-no-in-game-explanation-for-change/

All of because of one anonymous letter.

Then  again if these are the fans they listen too it's no real surprise:

https://paizo.com/threads/rzs43jjq?Direction-of-Community

It's too bad though as the rest of the forum is a decent place to visit.

Ghostmaker

#1
December 22, 2021, 10:14:34 AM
I can't decide if this is dumber than WotC scrubbing stuff out of its monster lore or not.

What the fuck, Paizo? I knew you were a pack of woke morons, but maybe, just maybe, some of us would like to fight the evils of the world and not have them magically swept away by authorial fiat?

What's next? The perpetual friction between native Shoanti and other peoples in their lands gets vanished? Cheliax suddenly becomes sweetness and light again? Does Nidal somehow mysteriously stop being Zon-Kuthon's foothold in the world?

Pathetic.

Shrieking Banshee

#2
December 22, 2021, 10:34:53 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 22, 2021, 10:14:34 AMWhat the fuck, Paizo? I knew you were a pack of woke morons, but maybe, just maybe, some of us would like to fight the evils of the world and not have them magically swept away by authorial fiat?
While people poo-pooed Golarion, I found it pretty fun for a anachronistic patchwork of kingdoms with problems. The 2nd ed version is so much more lifeless because the AP are cannonical and remove said problems.

HappyDaze

#3
December 22, 2021, 10:37:35 AM
This will have zero effect on my purchasing of Pathfinder products. The only one of which I bought in the last 5 years was the 2e core book (the player's one) on pdf. Didn't like it enough to buy anything else.

Svenhelgrim

#4
December 22, 2021, 10:42:31 AM
Sometimes a company gets so big that it starts to crumble beneath its own weight. This is good for small, competative game companies.  It leaves an opening to create something great.

We can accelerate this process by writing fake outrage letters to Baizuo, and Hazards-of-the-bro.  If it takes something so easy as this to topple these titans then we can surely beat them.

tenbones

#5
December 22, 2021, 11:45:00 AM
I mourn the tragedy of all the slaves in Golarion that lost their lives at the hands of their cruel masters. So much loss... so senseless.

Oh right. None of that is real except in the minds of morons.

Meanwhile... in Libya/China/North Korea/Pakistan/Mauritania/Liberia/Uganda/Congo/Ghana/Togo/Madagascar/Sudan and I could probably name a dozen other nations - slavery in one form or another (child/female sex-trade, indentured servitude, outright slavery etc) goes on without a peep.

But THANK Galactus we finally freed the people of Golarion. WHEW.

Abraxus

#6
December 22, 2021, 12:01:53 PM
I can't help but wonder the timing of the announcement to try and use it as a smokescreen for their past transgressions.

First one employee refused to sleep in the room with a trans employee and then one of the guys in charge doxxed a poster by name on the boards. No matter what they said or claimed to do the Woke Mob was not satisfied and now this. Makes you wonder if they hope the mob will forget the first two. Guess what they won't

Thorn Drumheller

#7
December 22, 2021, 12:52:57 PM
Good news is you know where to spend your money. I do own some paizo pdfs but won't spend a dime again.
Member in good standing of COSM.

Wrath of God

#8
December 22, 2021, 12:58:14 PM
QuoteFirst one employee refused to sleep in the room with a trans employee

Now TBH female employee agreed to sleep in the room with a trans-woman employee, but Powers That Be said it's against firm politics or smth.
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"

"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"

Zelen

#9
December 22, 2021, 02:08:52 PM
It's time to write Paizo a letter about how it is problematic that they continue to profit by selling products featuring slavery.

Goodbye Paizo's back catalogue.

Ghostmaker

#10
December 22, 2021, 02:28:58 PM
The Paizo forums are a little heated at the moment. It seems not all of Paizo's customers agree with the decision.

BoxCrayonTales

#11
December 22, 2021, 02:29:42 PM
I bet $50 that it's a troll from 4chan.

Ghostmaker

#12
December 22, 2021, 02:33:40 PM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on December 22, 2021, 02:29:42 PM
I bet $50 that it's a troll from 4chan.
I would argue, but considering some of the insane bullshit 4chan has managed to push into the collective unconsciousness...

hedgehobbit

#13
December 22, 2021, 02:47:05 PM
The most significant quote is this one: "because there was no rule to disallow it, the gamemaster and other players at the table had no way to stop them."

A GM can do nothing unless it is specifically spelled out in the rules. That's the mindset these people have and it's why they insist on changing everything.

Wrath of God

#14
December 22, 2021, 02:51:04 PM
Well we talk about GM's of Convention Plays. Organised Society, so yes GM's there are limited by Society.
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"

"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"
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