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Title: [OSR] Backswords & Bucklers
Post by: Fighterboy on November 23, 2021, 08:38:15 AM
My favourite OSR RPG (which I guess makes it my favourite RPG). Thought lost for years, I found the three books in a box in the attic last weekend, along with my notebook of houserules and a copy of Elizabethan York, which is mostly everything I need to run it forever.

However, since the last time I ran it, I've watched shows like Peaky Blinders, and would like to add in a subsystem for starting (or joining) criminal gangs and dealing with the trials & tribulations concerned, promotion through the ranks and maybe taking over. Is there anything (preferably OSR, but not necessarily) already out there before I start researching and writing?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [OSR] Backswords & Bucklers
Post by: DoctorGlocktor on November 23, 2021, 09:56:40 PM
I've never played it, but Blades in the Dark is all about running a gang of thieves. It may have some mechanics for you.
Title: Re: [OSR] Backswords & Bucklers
Post by: Spinachcat on November 24, 2021, 01:27:32 AM
Tell us more about B&B! Why is it your fav RPG?
Title: Re: [OSR] Backswords & Bucklers
Post by: Fighterboy on November 24, 2021, 05:01:14 AM
I'd heard about Blades in the Dark, but written it off as FATE wankery. Having found the SRD, there are some ideas about organisations that I can steal, so thanks for that!

As for why B&B is my favourite RPG, hmm let's see...


And if you're not familiar with the game itself, Book One is free on Lulu: https://www.lulu.com/shop/christopher-cale/backswords-bucklers-book-one-basic-rules/ebook/product-17402084.html?page=1&pageSize=4 (https://www.lulu.com/shop/christopher-cale/backswords-bucklers-book-one-basic-rules/ebook/product-17402084.html?page=1&pageSize=4)

Basically, a game based on Elizabethan low-lives in an urban environment (nominally London) living a life of crime.
Title: Re: [OSR] Backswords & Bucklers
Post by: Naburimannu on November 24, 2021, 05:25:01 AM
Quote from: Fighterboy on November 23, 2021, 08:38:15 AM
However, since the last time I ran it, I've watched shows like Peaky Blinders, and would like to add in a subsystem for starting (or joining) criminal gangs and dealing with the trials & tribulations concerned, promotion through the ranks and maybe taking over. Is there anything (preferably OSR, but not necessarily) already out there before I start researching and writing?

The original ACKS (Adventurer Conqueror King System) had a few pages f rules for thieves starting guilds, even before name level. You might look at that for economics & some thief-specific job generation.
Title: Re: [OSR] Backswords & Bucklers
Post by: Fighterboy on November 24, 2021, 05:26:52 AM
Is ACKS an OSR "redo" of the Rules Cyclopedia?  As I think I have the original sitting in a box somewhere too...
Title: Re: [OSR] Backswords & Bucklers
Post by: TKurtBond on December 07, 2021, 03:01:20 PM
Quote from: Fighterboy on November 24, 2021, 05:26:52 AM
Is ACKS an OSR "redo" of the Rules Cyclopedia?  As I think I have the original sitting in a box somewhere too...
I wouldn't call ACKS (Adventurer, Conqueror, King System) a redo of the Rules Cyclopedia; it holds strictly to the 1 to 14 level scale of B/X D&D, rather than the 1 to 36 level scale of the Rules Cyclopedia.  ACKS starts with B/X and adds additional detail in a different way from how AD&D added detail to D&D.  In particular, there is more support on the "Conqueror, King" part of play: strongholds, domains, thieves guilds, and so forth, and the economic details are intended to be more plausible.