Quote from: Koltar;411266Not even if a PATHFINDER product had a really cool map that you thought about using for some other game?


- Ed C.

Paizo makes some pretty darn awesome maps. And I love their flip-battle mats to. Good stuff.

Print versions. I have also pre-ordered a PF third party book, Warlords of the Apocalypse. Can't wait to get it. I am currently working on a solo PF game for my wife.

Quote from: Tetsubo;411367Print versions. I have also pre-ordered a PF third party book, Warlords of the Apocalypse. Can't wait to get it. I am currently working on a solo PF game for my wife.

Did she choose the character she wants to play already?

Quote from: Benoist;411380Did she choose the character she wants to play already?

She will be playing an Oakling Ranger. We have yet to sit down and work out the details. The Oakling (think junior treant) is from a race book from Alluria Publishing. It is an entire book of new PF races. I did a review on my YouTube channel.

Part I:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TW6WPZldnY

I have also decided to adapt the Treesinger fetas from the Wheel of Time RPG for the race.

With a character like this the adventures almost write themselves.

Quote from: Seanchai;411248It seems to me that most people who play 4e just play it. It also seems to me that a good number of people who play Pathfinder are vocal and proselytize.

Back in mid-2008, the 3.5E players holdovers (who were not interested in 4E initially) I knew of locally, were typically the types that just played the game without making a fuss about editions.  Some eventually moved on to Pathfinder, while some didn't (ie. a few eventually migrated to 4E after their 3.5E games ended).

On the other hand, the hardcore Pathfinder types I knew of locally, frequently fit into the "vocal and proselytizing" category.  They were almost always the DM in their games, and were "edition warrior" types.  (I don't know how many of them post regularly on online rpg message boards).  They always talk about how Pathfinder improves upon 3.5E D&D, and that Pathfinder is really the "true 4E" D&D (in their own minds).  It's basically like talking to a fanatic.

To be fair, as much as I dislike the antics of the fanatics of any edition, I have encountered many 4e fans who look at me with great disdain when I proclaim 4e to be anything other than superb.

Playable? Sure.
Superb? Not to me.

I gave 4e nearly two years before I decided that it wasn't going to be something that I run. I'll play it, if that's what everyone else wants to do. That's about it. It doesn't inspire me enough to DM it.

But the Pathfinder guru that foamed at the mouth when my friend mentioned that we were going to try a 4e campaign? That was just as bad as the derision given me by the 4e fanatics.

Bottom line? All games have fanatics. None of them are fun to be around.
There is a game system that seems to draw more than its fair share of fanaticism, but it isn't 4e or Pathfinder.

Yeah. There are annoying proponents and opponents on all sides of all issues.

Each game will be adapted for use with different types of audiences, for different types of games playing on different sets of expectations, to me. It all depends what type of game you want, and who you are playing it with.

Quote from: PaladinCA;411426Bottom line? All games have fanatics.

I agree with you there.

However, as I said, it seems to me that more often than not 4e have an indifferent response to toward others, whether those others have positive, neutral, or negative responses toward 4e. The 4e fans don't care - they have their group of players, so shrug.

But Pathfinder fans seem to me to tend toward proselytizing and being vocal about their game, particularly when the objects of such are neutral or pro-4e. It seems to me that they want to draw as many people a) into playing Pathfinder as possible and b) draw as many folks away from 4e as possible.

That's not necessarily unreasonable, but it does strike me as a different set of behaviors.

Seanchai

I bought the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, the Bestiary, the GameMastery Critical Hit Deck, and the GameMastery Critical Fumble Deck. I've been using both decks for both my AD&D campaign and 3.x campaign, and the Pathfinder books provide me some ideas for my games. I'm glad I got 'em all.

Quote from: Sacrificial Lamb;411583I bought the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, the Bestiary, the GameMastery Critical Hit Deck, and the GameMastery Critical Fumble Deck. I've been using both decks for both my AD&D campaign and 3.x campaign, and the Pathfinder books provide me some ideas for my games. I'm glad I got 'em all.

The Critical decks are awesome.

Quote from: Benoist;411584The Critical decks are awesome.

They are awesome, and I like that extra element of randomness in my games.

I buy Golarion stuff. I'm not really interested in the PF system, though.