OBS new policies

FelixGamingX1 · June 30, 2022, 07:17:34 AM

Sounds like we got enough publishers. How long would it take for the site to be up and running?

Rob Necronomicon · June 30, 2022, 07:35:33 AM

I would say that GJ made a good point about not letting the 'face' of the company be any of the 'big three' (Pundit, Venger or GJ). Because if you want to attract other players in the industry it really needs to be seen as neutral ground and one that benefits every artist regardless of politics.

Raggi might work even though some peeps don't like LoTFP (assuming he'd be interested of course).

FelixGamingX1 · June 30, 2022, 07:44:03 AM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2022, 07:35:33 AM
I would say that GJ made a good point about not letting the 'face' of the company be any of the 'big three' (Pundit, Venger or GJ). Because if you want to attract other players in the industry it really needs to be seen as neutral ground and one that benefits every artist regardless of politics.

Raggi might work even though some peeps don't like LoTFP (assuming he'd be interested of course).

I think the contrary. I think all these cancelled celebrities should publicly run the site.
I got new stuff coming out towards the last quarter of the year. I would be willing to advertise the site and make the trpg portion of my work exclusive.

Rob Necronomicon · June 30, 2022, 08:42:58 AM

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on June 30, 2022, 07:44:03 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2022, 07:35:33 AM
I would say that GJ made a good point about not letting the 'face' of the company be any of the 'big three' (Pundit, Venger or GJ). Because if you want to attract other players in the industry it really needs to be seen as neutral ground and one that benefits every artist regardless of politics.

Raggi might work even though some peeps don't like LoTFP (assuming he'd be interested of course).

I think the contrary. I think all these cancelled celebrities should publicly run the site.
I got new stuff coming out towards the last quarter of the year. I would be willing to advertise the site and make the trpg portion of my work exclusive.

I agree with you in theory but I think it may have adverse consequences for any venture unless you're are going to stay very niche. There are a lot of people that won't want to work with them. I mean, I work with GJ, and I've also used Pundit as a consultant in the past and both guys were great. But trying to convince others might be difficult. I'm just spitballing here.

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:04:23 AM

Quote from: DocJones on June 29, 2022, 06:06:34 PM
I think it was metaphorical.
He was about to lose his shirt when OBS banned him for the video.

That may be so, but it was also disgusting. I was trying not to gag throughout the video. I mean, I have a better body than that, but I know better than to walk around without a shirt (at least outside of my house).

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:07:14 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 29, 2022, 06:22:15 PM

Fuck yeah! I('m not a developer but count with me for anything I can help with (other than money ATM), need a logo etc? I can whip one up for FREE. And also count on me to promote the hell out of the store free of charge, I bet I can enlist other like minded people to help promote it too.

If we can convince Pundit, Raggi, Grim, Venger, Eric and other developers here to sell there you'd have some guaranteed traffic from the word go.

Wow, this got a lot of responses so I am just catching up.

I appreciate the offer and I may take you up on that. I want to do something that looks nice and is fair to publishers and will give people other options for sale (or those who would rather not do it on their own site).

Oh, and if this does happen, if I screw up criticize me, I don't have a thin skin. You wanna let me know I messed up? Fine. I think many of OBS's policies I am going to use as an example of what NOT to do.

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:10:58 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 29, 2022, 08:57:54 PM
Hey GhostNinja I just had an idea, maybe it's just stupid but I thought about sharing it anyway:

Something that I just thought... Maybe offering the initial 10 publishers a bigger cut for a couple of years in exchange for some upfront money to finance the start up?

This is a possibility. But then, with the publishers already getting the 80% of the profits they are already doing better than OBS or other places. Not shooting the idea down though.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 29, 2022, 08:57:54 PMOr how about a crowdfunding campaign, the reward tiers are % discounts for the first year or a number of coupons with some discount on each.

Do you think a crowdfunding campaign wouid work?

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:12:39 AM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on June 29, 2022, 09:05:06 PM

This is why I'm against such policies. You never know when it will be used against you, and it will be used against you.

The problem is that it will probably take a while for this to turn on the woke and in that time they could do irreversible damage.

Yep, and the people on the big purple were naively saying that it wouldn't happen or it wouldn't be a big problem. It's like they are clueless to how the world really works. Especially these days where people are assholes to each other openly.

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:14:26 AM

Quote from: Zelen on June 29, 2022, 09:19:49 PM
I would be willing to help contribute a modest donation to finance an alternative site. I bet a number of people would also, especially if there's a bundle of content you get for doing so.

I appreciate it and a crowdfunding campaign is something to consider since it could help with the costs and really help get to the site where it looks professional and look like a site people would want to use. I know there were other attempts but those sites looked amateurish and I can see why they didn't succeed.

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:16:33 AM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 29, 2022, 09:26:30 PM
I would too. But the only way I see something like that working would be having a few mid-level creators willing to come on board. You'd want it to be seen as a place that favors the artist and fosters creativity. As opposed to drivethru "the best out of a bad lot".

I think you'd also have to take a lesser cut. Do drivethru take 30% for exclusive and 40 for non-exclusive. I can't remember (my work is on there but I don't manage it).

I am not sure if you saw what I said earlier in the conversation, but I was thinking 20% take. I would hope that would be low enough that people wouldn't need to be non-exclusive, although if they want to post them elsewhere I would understand.

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:19:48 AM

Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 29, 2022, 10:18:01 PM
So, let's find every game with a trans character under age 18 and report them for child abuse (the state of Florida aG even suggested hormone replacement and trans surgery on minors as child abuse, so we've got legal cover). Then harvest the LOLs...

I get what you are saying, but (and I am being honest) wouldn't us doing that make us just as bad as they are? We would be stooping to their level. Don't we want to be better than them (which I think we already are)?

Rob Necronomicon · June 30, 2022, 09:20:33 AM

Quote from: GhostNinja on June 30, 2022, 09:16:33 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 29, 2022, 09:26:30 PM
I would too. But the only way I see something like that working would be having a few mid-level creators willing to come on board. You'd want it to be seen as a place that favors the artist and fosters creativity. As opposed to drivethru "the best out of a bad lot".

I think you'd also have to take a lesser cut. Do drivethru take 30% for exclusive and 40 for non-exclusive. I can't remember (my work is on there but I don't manage it).

I am not sure if you saw what I said earlier in the conversation, but I was thinking 20% take. I would hope that would be low enough that people wouldn't need to be non-exclusive, although if they want to post them elsewhere I would understand.

20% sounds good (not that I'm a finance guy). It's got to be able to sustain itself too, and nobody works for free.

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:22:51 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 30, 2022, 02:18:41 AM
Grimm already said he would also contribute with a small ammount and would be happy to sell there, that's one. James Raggi would probably sell there too, add Venger, MAYBE Pundit and you have 4 well known creators directing people to the site.

Now add ALL the smaller fish here and maybe just maybe other not so small fish.

I'm betting the site could launch with about 20-30 creators.

This is starting to sound like a worthwhile project that I would be willing to take on. Let me start to put something together and see where I need to go.

GhostNinja · June 30, 2022, 09:26:52 AM

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on June 30, 2022, 07:17:34 AM
Sounds like we got enough publishers. How long would it take for the site to be up and running?

Well since there seems to be enough interest I am going to put together a business plan and try to get everything worked out. I am hoping it wont take too long. I may be able to get the domain name and site set up this weekend (3 day weekend).

Any thoughts on a good name?

FelixGamingX1 · June 30, 2022, 09:28:43 AM

If we crowdfund I'll commit $100. That's a year of web hosting with a dedicated server. I can recommend cheap and reliable web host with 99.9% uptime. None of that overpriced bs godaddy and likes offer.