Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on July 15, 2022, 12:10:27 PM

Lmao hard to believe this is real. What's strange about gaming in general is that it seems people who game are more inclined to have some sort real life struggles compared to average person who isn't into gaming. Like I game because of the story and entertainment, that's what I thought gaming was about. Ever since WoW came out I learned there's all sorts of reasons people game, and interacting with strangers on the internet is more often a negative experience than a memorable positive thing.

As far as I know, any study on this question is quite old, but they were all fairly conclusive that on average gamers had slightly less issues than the general population.  It was theorized that being able to "act" on issues in a pretend way can be a powerful means of releasing them.  The most common of course, does killing a bunch of orcs in a dungeon let you blow off steam or teach you that violence solves problems?  And the answer seems to be not very much of either, in most cases, but whatever mild effect it might have is more towards catharsis than escalation.

Now, I can see why it might not seem that way now.  I would suggest that the reason why is confirmation bias exacerbated by the tendency of the social media to call even more attention to outliers, while encouraging them to get their freak out there to be seen.  Most people fit pretty well in the normal bands, with a thing here or there that is not, and gamers aren't any more prone to wacky behavior than any other hobbyists or enthusiasts.

Quote from: drayakir on July 15, 2022, 02:45:30 PM
Moral ground? You need to take a step back and re-consider the words you're using.

Considering I just went back and reread what I said, I never used the word Moral.  Not sure where you are getting this.

Quote from: drayakir on July 15, 2022, 02:45:30 PMWe're on an Internet forum moderated by a random Internet personality dedicated to a niche hobby, talking about a "literal who(re)" that is having problem with a vocal minority of culture warriors.

Yes, and I spoke about how repugnant Daniel Fox is.   Regardless of that fact, in person or on the internet, defamation is still defamation and as repugnant as Daniel Fox is, your comments are actionable.   Now, he most likely wouldn't because you probably have nothing worth suing for, and even if he won judgement you could just file for bankruptcy and it would be all for nothing.   I am not talking about Daniel's character (which I have made clear I am aware of), I am talking about facts.  Facts are important.

Quote from: drayakir on July 15, 2022, 02:45:30 PM
It's important to have context about these things before talking about "moral high ground." I couldn't care less whether my words are admissible or valid in a court of law because I'm not trying to prove anything to a court of law, because I don't actually give a shit. Pic related.

Again, you are littlerly making up the moral high ground part.  Never used those words.  I am talking about the law and facts.  As far as Daniel Fox goes, I wouldn't pee on him if he was on fire.

Quote from: drayakir on July 15, 2022, 02:45:30 PMDaniel Fox is a pedophiliac plagiarist and he can choke on it for all I care.

Again, people have pointed out what you are saying is NOT true.  You can hate him all you want (I do) but if you are going to have a conversation, present facts not feelings because when you say things that aren't true (like this) and people know it, they will start to ignore you.

Quote from: drayakir on July 15, 2022, 02:45:30 PM
EDIT: Modified by Administrator

This sentence says more about you than it doesn't about Daniel Fox.   Now I understand you could just be playing an "internet tough guy" saying things you would never say in person because there would be consequences, but being pissed of about Daniel Fox eats you up inside and does nothing to him as he doesn't know or care that you are pissed off at him.  That's why I don't hold grudges, those people aren't worth my time.  Forget them and don't even spend energy on them.

This is a thread alright.

Moral of the story here. SJWs eat their own. And, back up your claims.

Quote from: MeganovaStella on July 14, 2022, 10:16:24 PM
If you don't want to get insulted, how about you kill yourself? If you're dead, you can't see my posts.

You're like 13 years old... aren't you?

Quote from: drayakir on July 15, 2022, 02:45:30 PM


Moral ground? You need to take a step back and re-consider the words you're using. We're on an Internet forum moderated by a random Internet personality dedicated to a niche hobby, talking about a "literal who(re)" that is having problem with a vocal minority of culture warriors. It's important to have context about these things before talking about "moral high ground." I couldn't care less whether my words are admissible or valid in a court of law because I'm not trying to prove anything to a court of law, because I don't actually give a shit. Pic related.

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Drayakir, after some consideration I removed your last paragraph. There's a step too far in terms of personal attacks, even of human scum, that should not be made flippantly. I'd suggest you take a step back from this current argument, and do not repeat the claim you made there unless you are ready to file a police report about it.

Quote from: RPGPundit on July 15, 2022, 05:34:43 PM

Quote from: drayakir on July 15, 2022, 02:45:30 PM


Moral ground? You need to take a step back and re-consider the words you're using. We're on an Internet forum moderated by a random Internet personality dedicated to a niche hobby, talking about a "literal who(re)" that is having problem with a vocal minority of culture warriors. It's important to have context about these things before talking about "moral high ground." I couldn't care less whether my words are admissible or valid in a court of law because I'm not trying to prove anything to a court of law, because I don't actually give a shit. Pic related.

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Drayakir, after some consideration I removed your last paragraph. There's a step too far in terms of personal attacks, even of human scum, that should not be made flippantly. I'd suggest you take a step back from this current argument, and do not repeat the claim you made there unless you are ready to file a police report about it.

Okie dokie boss. I'm pretty much done here anyway since I've made my position on him quite clear.

Quote from: DocJones on July 15, 2022, 05:20:09 PM

Quote from: MeganovaStella on July 14, 2022, 10:16:24 PM
If you don't want to get insulted, how about you kill yourself? If you're dead, you can't see my posts.

You're like 13 years old... aren't you?

No.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 15, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
Okay, Gayakweer, lemme show you how this works.

I'll make an accusation:
"Venger Satanis is a plagiarist."

Pretty bold claim, right? Indeed it is. Now, I'll back that up with evidence. Anyone who opens Google and searches the following phrase:

venger satanis plagiarism cult of cthulhu

...will see as the first result a blog post from 2007, in which passages from Venger's "Cult of Cthulhu" book, and Identical Wikipedia entries, are shown side-by-side. All of this info is independently verifiable, by going to Wikipedia's "changes" page for the article in question, and seeing for yourself. In addition, the author has kindly catalogued all of his interactions with Venger, including Venger's eventual admission that, yes, he did indeed take the info in question from the WIkipedia article, as accused.

(Note: I am not linking the blog directly, as it has Venger's real name. This isn't "doxxing", because Venger's name is well-known, and also listed on his Kickstarter profile, along with his location, so, none of this is "secret" or "doxxing", but I have chosen not to directly link it out of respect for Venger's apparent wishes that it not be repeated)

And, finally, I will add some screenshots of the info, even though I have already instructed others as to where they may find it.







And that, my slow-witted friend, is plagiarism, accusation and proof.

Enjoy being on my block list. Imagine, getting blocked by me, lmao.

  I guess the nice thing about being an SJW type is you can pick and choose what slurs you toss around when it suits you.   

Quote from: oggsmash on July 16, 2022, 07:00:32 AM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 15, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
Okay, Gayakweer, lemme show you how this works.

I'll make an accusation:
"Venger Satanis is a plagiarist."

Pretty bold claim, right? Indeed it is. Now, I'll back that up with evidence. Anyone who opens Google and searches the following phrase:

venger satanis plagiarism cult of cthulhu

...will see as the first result a blog post from 2007, in which passages from Venger's "Cult of Cthulhu" book, and Identical Wikipedia entries, are shown side-by-side. All of this info is independently verifiable, by going to Wikipedia's "changes" page for the article in question, and seeing for yourself. In addition, the author has kindly catalogued all of his interactions with Venger, including Venger's eventual admission that, yes, he did indeed take the info in question from the WIkipedia article, as accused.

(Note: I am not linking the blog directly, as it has Venger's real name. This isn't "doxxing", because Venger's name is well-known, and also listed on his Kickstarter profile, along with his location, so, none of this is "secret" or "doxxing", but I have chosen not to directly link it out of respect for Venger's apparent wishes that it not be repeated)

And, finally, I will add some screenshots of the info, even though I have already instructed others as to where they may find it.







And that, my slow-witted friend, is plagiarism, accusation and proof.

Enjoy being on my block list. Imagine, getting blocked by me, lmao.

  I guess the nice thing about being an SJW type is you can pick and choose what slurs you toss around when it suits you.

Lighten up, Francis.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 16, 2022, 08:55:03 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on July 16, 2022, 07:00:32 AM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 15, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
Okay, Gayakweer, lemme show you how this works.

I'll make an accusation:
"Venger Satanis is a plagiarist."

Pretty bold claim, right? Indeed it is. Now, I'll back that up with evidence. Anyone who opens Google and searches the following phrase:

venger satanis plagiarism cult of cthulhu

...will see as the first result a blog post from 2007, in which passages from Venger's "Cult of Cthulhu" book, and Identical Wikipedia entries, are shown side-by-side. All of this info is independently verifiable, by going to Wikipedia's "changes" page for the article in question, and seeing for yourself. In addition, the author has kindly catalogued all of his interactions with Venger, including Venger's eventual admission that, yes, he did indeed take the info in question from the WIkipedia article, as accused.

(Note: I am not linking the blog directly, as it has Venger's real name. This isn't "doxxing", because Venger's name is well-known, and also listed on his Kickstarter profile, along with his location, so, none of this is "secret" or "doxxing", but I have chosen not to directly link it out of respect for Venger's apparent wishes that it not be repeated)

And, finally, I will add some screenshots of the info, even though I have already instructed others as to where they may find it.







And that, my slow-witted friend, is plagiarism, accusation and proof.

Enjoy being on my block list. Imagine, getting blocked by me, lmao.

  I guess the nice thing about being an SJW type is you can pick and choose what slurs you toss around when it suits you.

Lighten up, Francis.

  The irony that rings out coming from a person like you is deafening.   Never change. 

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 16, 2022, 08:55:03 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on July 16, 2022, 07:00:32 AM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 15, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
Okay, Gayakweer, lemme show you how this works.

I'll make an accusation:
"Venger Satanis is a plagiarist."

Pretty bold claim, right? Indeed it is. Now, I'll back that up with evidence. Anyone who opens Google and searches the following phrase:

venger satanis plagiarism cult of cthulhu

...will see as the first result a blog post from 2007, in which passages from Venger's "Cult of Cthulhu" book, and Identical Wikipedia entries, are shown side-by-side. All of this info is independently verifiable, by going to Wikipedia's "changes" page for the article in question, and seeing for yourself. In addition, the author has kindly catalogued all of his interactions with Venger, including Venger's eventual admission that, yes, he did indeed take the info in question from the WIkipedia article, as accused.

(Note: I am not linking the blog directly, as it has Venger's real name. This isn't "doxxing", because Venger's name is well-known, and also listed on his Kickstarter profile, along with his location, so, none of this is "secret" or "doxxing", but I have chosen not to directly link it out of respect for Venger's apparent wishes that it not be repeated)

And, finally, I will add some screenshots of the info, even though I have already instructed others as to where they may find it.







And that, my slow-witted friend, is plagiarism, accusation and proof.

Enjoy being on my block list. Imagine, getting blocked by me, lmao.

  I guess the nice thing about being an SJW type is you can pick and choose what slurs you toss around when it suits you.

Lighten up, Francis.

Please follow my advice

I must say this thread is incredible pearl of making people justly defending Danny Boy against even more insane defamators. Ah, well - Inimicus Vulpes sed magis amica veritas

Oh No!

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anyway.

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Quote from: Steven Mitchell on July 13, 2022, 12:03:52 PM
In my less charitable moments, I'm a Kantian through and through:  People ought to be treated as if the rules they imply by their actions were, in fact, the rules for them.

SJW's eating their own is about the only productive thing they do with their lives.  We really shouldn't try to take that from them.

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Quote from: Habitual Gamer on July 15, 2022, 01:39:07 PM

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on July 15, 2022, 12:10:27 PM
What's strange about gaming in general is that it seems people who game are more inclined to have some sort real life struggles compared to average person who isn't into gaming.

It actually makes a little bit of sense.

Say you're transgender (or transracial, or a furry, or a reincarnated elf or whatever).  RPGs let you pretend you're the thing you feel like, as a kind of practice run (at least that's my theory).  Now this isn't universal of course; just because I play an elf (or a squid, or a person of the opposite gender) doesn't mean I secretly think I'm that. 

Or say you have poor social skills.  RPGs teach teamwork, turn taking, time commitments, and other stuff.  There's even a game specifically designed to help teach autistic kids these skills in an educational environment (Critical Core).

Plus, I've known gamers who lacked the physical capability for most other hobbies (can't walk, lack fine motor skills, etc.).

Then you get to the idea that the Venn diagram of these three issues (identity confusion, poor social skills, physical problems) has an oddly high amount of overlap (not totally overlapping, but still statistically significant*) and it becomes a "duh" moment as to why games might appeal to certain (overlapping) groups of people.

Makes a whole lot of sense really. I love RPGs, but I'm not going to deny the hobby attracts a certain sort.

Quote from: Habitual Gamer on July 15, 2022, 01:39:07 PM
(*I know there is a wide range of physical issues that tend to be more common among the autistic community (muscle weakness, dietary restrictions/deficiencies, sleep disorders, etc.).  Transgenderism is also often cited as higher among the autistic population than among neurotypicals, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's eventually determined that a good chunk of that came from transgendered people who self-diagnosed as autistic, and autism is no more or less common among the transgender population than any other.)

Actually there's growing evidence that autism is overdiagnosed, and I suspect many autistics are misdiagnosed as transgender because of their social proclivities.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 15, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
Okay, Gayakweer, lemme show you how this works.

I'll make an accusation:
"Venger Satanis is a plagiarist."

Pretty bold claim, right? Indeed it is. Now, I'll back that up with evidence. Anyone who opens Google and searches the following phrase:

venger satanis plagiarism cult of cthulhu

...will see as the first result a blog post from 2007, in which passages from Venger's "Cult of Cthulhu" book, and Identical Wikipedia entries, are shown side-by-side. All of this info is independently verifiable, by going to Wikipedia's "changes" page for the article in question, and seeing for yourself. In addition, the author has kindly catalogued all of his interactions with Venger, including Venger's eventual admission that, yes, he did indeed take the info in question from the WIkipedia article, as accused.

Well that isn't a good look.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 15, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
(Note: I am not linking the blog directly, as it has Venger's real name. This isn't "doxxing", because Venger's name is well-known, and also listed on his Kickstarter profile, along with his location, so, none of this is "secret" or "doxxing", but I have chosen not to directly link it out of respect for Venger's apparent wishes that it not be repeated)

Wait, was that the privacy violation drayakir was dinged for?!?

Heh, someone #Deadnamed Venger.

Quote from: GhostNinja on July 15, 2022, 02:18:20 PM
What drayakir said about Daniel (As repugnant of a person as he is) amounts to Defamation.   If Daniel were to take drayakir to court and sue him, it would be on drayakir's legal team to prove that Daniel plagiarized which others have said they have read Fox's material and it is not word for word plagiarized.

Even without a lawsuit it's a legitimate foundation to claim that any further accusations are likewise defamatory and without merit.

Since the thread has moved on from the OP...

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on July 21, 2022, 01:20:16 PM
Actually there's growing evidence that autism is overdiagnosed,

I wouldn't be surprised, especially as Asperger's and ADD are now considered forms of autism.  Then you get into how autism is diagnosed ("you have these lists of traits, and need a condition from each list" sounds like a bunch of different disorders lumped together to me).

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on July 21, 2022, 01:20:16 PM
and I suspect many autistics are misdiagnosed as transgender because of their social proclivities.

I respect it's just a hypothesis, but I'd be curious as to hear more of it.  (PM if you want)  Personally, from what I've seen, I'd go the other route and suspect people who are LGBTQ+ are more likely to mis/self-diagnose at autistic (because generalized anxiety disorder is seen as a person's fault, whereas autistic is just another thing you are like your hair color.  EDIT: and you can more easily change that sort of stuff in their minds).