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Nobilis, Third Edition

Started by Daedalus, July 07, 2010, 09:31:50 PM

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Rand Brittain

I think when someone on RPG.net mentions theRPGSite, there's a sort of wave of attention as people who visited once a while back return for a minute to see if anything interesting has happened since they left. This time there was a mention because we finally banned CavScout (as opposed to just throwing him out of Tangency), and someone brought up his history (I think CavScout was the one) as the person who managed to get banned from the site that was formed around not banning people.

Then the Pundit says something, and the people who don't find his persona amusing/endearing/whatever leave again, until the planets align once more.

StormBringer

Quote from: Rand Brittain;394872Lately, of course, I've been playtesting more than posting, trying to see how far I could stretch the character creation system and such. (We play over IRC, so it's generally troublesome to try and do character creation during an actual session if you want to get anything else done.)

So far I'm fairly pleased with the changes to the mechanics. Persona, as Dr. Moran has mentioned, is a replacement for Spirit that actually does spirited things instead of just being a sort of passive numinous glory. Treasure isn't quite a replacement for Realm but it does a lot of things people tended to end up using Realm to accomplish. The basic mechanics haven't particularly changed, but there have been all kinds of tiny tweaks. I think they're mostly all improvements, although the new Bonds system is going to need some really good explication so that people can understand how far you can stretch it, or it might be in danger of being treated like 2e Bonds and languishing a bit.
Ok, enough de-railment, back to the topic.  :)

Sounds like they have a pretty good handle on what needs to be streamlined and clarified.  I am looking forward to this even more.  Without breaking the NDA, can you say how easy it will be to convert characters, Chancels and other tidbits between the editions?
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Rand Brittain

I wouldn't say it was hard, but given that two whole attributes have new functions now it might just be simpler to rebuild the character under 3e's design assumptions in order to get the feel you want. I mean, I guess you could just swap Realm and Spirit for Treasure and Persona, but it's not like it takes three hours to build a character if you already have the concept. I found that a lot of characters from 2e I wanted to build differently in 3e because of the options I now had, so conversion as such wasn't an issue for me.

Chancel and Imperator Properties are quite different now, to the point that what they used to be doesn't really exist anymore. I think I prefer the new system, since I usually forgot about Imperator properties and how NPCs should have them anyway.

The Yann Waters

Quote from: StormBringer;394869I am sensing another mass migration from tBP in the works.
I seem to recall that Pundit's antipathy towards Nobilis was the original reason why I registered here in the first place. Someone has to speak for the underdog, I guess.

Quote from: Rand Brittain;394872The basic mechanics haven't particularly changed, but there have been all kinds of tiny tweaks.
From Moran's comments over at RPGnet, wounds, contested actions, and the immunity to direct miracles have all been adjusted somewhat in 3e.

Quote from: Rand Brittain;394882Chancel and Imperator Properties are quite different now, to the point that what they used to be doesn't really exist anymore.
They are now "less like 90's-style Merits and Flaws", apparently.
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Rand Brittain

Quote from: GrimGent;394892They are now "less like 90's-style Merits and Flaws", apparently.

Character-sheet frontloading is a common trait in Dr. Moran's recent games (and plenty of other writer's games, as well), where what you put on your character sheet says specific things about what you want to see in the game and what your character thinks is important.

J Arcane

Heh heh heh.

"Dr. Moran".

*snicker*
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Rand Brittain

Jenna Moran is a Doctor of Computer Science with a degree from Johns Hopkins University. It's correct and polite to refer to her by her title if you don't want to call her by her first name. Also it gives me an excuse to refer to her as "the Doctor," which I find funny.

J Arcane

Quote from: Rand Brittain;395055Jenna Moran is a Doctor of Computer Science with a degree from Johns Hopkins University. It's correct and polite to refer to her by her title if you don't want to call her by her first name. Also it gives me an excuse to refer to her as "the Doctor," which I find funny.

I think you missed half the joke.

Not that it was anything but a juvenile one to begin with.
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Rand Brittain

No, I understood the joke. There was a reason we all kept on talking about Borgstromancy instead of Moranomancy after the Doctor changed her name.

thenorm42

Just thought I'd mention - 333 copies of Nobilis 3rd edition are now available for pre-order from //www.eos-sama.com (payment by Paypal I believe). They're shipping in late March / early April, but you get the PDF immediately! I've got mine, I'm particularly digging the new take on Hell.

Daedalus

Quote from: thenorm42;444577Just thought I'd mention - 333 copies of Nobilis 3rd edition are now available for pre-order from //www.eos-sama.com (payment by Paypal I believe). They're shipping in late March / early April, but you get the PDF immediately! I've got mine, I'm particularly digging the new take on Hell.

Does it look anything like New Jersey?  I kid

Daedalus

Quote from: Rand Brittain;395055Jenna Moran is a Doctor of Computer Science with a degree from Johns Hopkins University. It's correct and polite to refer to her by her title if you don't want to call her by her first name. Also it gives me an excuse to refer to her as "the Doctor," which I find funny.

I call Medical Doctors doctor and they are the only ones.  I have no problem with Nobilis but if Jenna Moran thinks I should call her doctor, she has another thing coming to her.  

Oh and pick a fucking name and stick with it

Rand Brittain

Quote from: Daedalus;444592I call Medical Doctors doctor and they are the only ones.  I have no problem with Nobilis but if Jenna Moran thinks I should call her doctor, she has another thing coming to her.

Most people who are not as formal as I call her Jenna. She seems to prefer it!

QuoteOh and pick a fucking name and stick with it

Do you know, I think she has?

Anyway, I've received my copy of the PDF. It's quite pretty! Not all the art is to my taste, and some of it is sort of bad, but there are a lot of pretty pieces. The rules, of course, have all the improvements I saw from the playtest which people will probably be talking about soon.

The Yann Waters

Quote from: thenorm42;444577They're shipping in late March / early April, but you get the PDF immediately!
The local gaming store over here should have the book available by May, according to their site, so I'll wait until then. Who knows, maybe it'll in some small way help to persuade them that there's a market for the game.
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