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New Inappropriate Characters: WoTC Wokeness Edition

Started by RPGPundit, June 22, 2020, 01:44:30 AM

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June 22, 2020, 01:44:30 AM
In our latest episode, Venger, Jobe, and myself talk about the new woke virtue-signalling (and firing) from Wizards of the Coast!

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Tom Kalbfus

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June 22, 2020, 04:23:00 PM
I can think of specific characters from Deities and Demigods that are now considered inappropriate, such as the Norse and Greek gods, as small sects of wiccans worship them and take themselves seriously. Still I like using the gods from Deities and Demigods over the ones that were specifically made up for Dungeons & Dragons.

Razor 007

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June 22, 2020, 06:28:54 PM
If a D&D 6E happens, I promise you it will be The Woke Edition.
I need you to roll a perception check.....

Tom Kalbfus

#3
June 22, 2020, 06:59:39 PM
I like 3.5, I don't like buying new books to replace old books and 3.5 in the most versatile version in my opinion, and also the fact that I know the core rulebooks inside and outside, monsters, npcs, and pcs all have the same format. D&D really doesn't get dated, what was medeaval fantasy back then still is medeaval fantasy now, whereas science fiction gets dated quite rapidly. I don't know why D&D has so many versions. How about the Monopoly boardgame, there is only one version of that. I really want them writing new adventures instead of the Core Rule Books, I don't want to have to buy them over and over again! I don't want 21st century fads and trends in my D&D games.

Almost_Useless

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June 22, 2020, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Razor 007;1135714If a D&D 6E happens, I promise you it will be The Woke Edition.

It's a shame because that would probably split the fans into two camps, neither of which would buy it.  On one hand, you have the people that just aren't into the woke stuff.  On the other, the true woke believers who probably think whatever 6e would be is done better in some FATE or Dungeon World product.

David Johansen

#5
June 22, 2020, 11:30:49 PM
Or simply see all the work as free for distribution and never buy it at all.  Liberals always think they're entitled to everyone else's work for free.
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Tom Kalbfus

#6
June 23, 2020, 08:28:31 AM
Quote from: Almost_Useless;1135736It's a shame because that would probably split the fans into two camps, neither of which would buy it.  On one hand, you have the people that just aren't into the woke stuff.  On the other, the true woke believers who probably think whatever 6e would be is done better in some FATE or Dungeon World product.

That is a corporation for you, D&D was better off under TSR than Hasbro, a large faceless corporation. The Corporates are well insulated from their customer base and play the political game instead!

Armchair Gamer

#7
June 23, 2020, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: Tom Kalbfus;1135795That is a corporation for you, D&D was better off under TSR than Hasbro, a large faceless corporation. The Corporates are well insulated from their customer base and play the political game instead!

   I don't think Hasbro's the issue--I think it was the shift in corporate culture from a fairly middle-of-the-road midwestern operation like TSR to the Seattle-born and bred, self-consciously progressive Wizards of the Coast that caused the major change.

Opaopajr

#8
June 23, 2020, 11:07:38 AM
Big Chungus in a box or we riot! :mad: :p (I love eventual youtube pet popularity as a tax upon channels. :D)
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Tom Kalbfus

#9
June 23, 2020, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1135796I don't think Hasbro's the issue--I think it was the shift in corporate culture from a fairly middle-of-the-road midwestern operation like TSR to the Seattle-born and bred, self-consciously progressive Wizards of the Coast that caused the major change.

Are the majority of players a bunch of blacks that want to play orc and drow characters?

Armchair Gamer

#10
June 23, 2020, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: Tom Kalbfus;1135846Are the majority of players a bunch of blacks that want to play orc and drow characters?

  Not sure what that has to do with the point. But I would note that Paizo is sprung from ex-WotC folks in the same location, is not answerable to a corporate master, and is even more outspokenly left-wing.

SavageSchemer

#11
June 23, 2020, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1135848Not sure what that has to do with the point. But I would note that Paizo is sprung from ex-WotC folks in the same location, is not answerable to a corporate master, and is even more outspokenly left-wing.

So the real problem is that they're all from the Pacific northwest...
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Tom Kalbfus

#12
June 23, 2020, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1135848Not sure what that has to do with the point. But I would note that Paizo is sprung from ex-WotC folks in the same location, is not answerable to a corporate master, and is even more outspokenly left-wing.

There is nothing inherently left-wing about Dungeons & Dragons, the people who play the game don't lean in any particular direction, and they don't care about the politics of the game designers or writers, even more frustrating for the writers is D&D has no built in setting, and without that the game designers have no particular avenue to push their politics on to their customers, a lot of them like to make up their own game world's rather than play in the official ones. There are a lot of tools for making one's own game world's, and they can be as conservative or as liberal as the DM wants it to be.

Tom Kalbfus

#13
June 23, 2020, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: SavageSchemer;1135854So the real problem is that they're all from the Pacific northwest...

Could be, look at what's happening in Seattle!

Shasarak

#14
June 23, 2020, 04:48:49 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1135848Not sure what that has to do with the point. But I would note that Paizo is sprung from ex-WotC folks in the same location, is not answerable to a corporate master, and is even more outspokenly left-wing.

The Wuhan virus has really done a number on them.  Its sad really.
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