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Aglondir

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November 01, 2023, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on October 28, 2023, 11:35:59 AM
Even fixing issues like Super Strength, breaking Dexterity down a bit, or ending the Hit Points debate by making them equal Strength + Health becomes highly controversial as it impacts compatability. 

David,

What is the HP debate?

Kyle Aaron

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November 01, 2023, 08:00:13 PM Last Edit: November 01, 2023, 08:03:01 PM by Kyle Aaron
Quote from: Cathode Ray on October 30, 2023, 11:05:26 PM
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David Johansen

#77
November 01, 2023, 08:32:57 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on November 01, 2023, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on October 28, 2023, 11:35:59 AM
Even fixing issues like Super Strength, breaking Dexterity down a bit, or ending the Hit Points debate by making them equal Strength + Health becomes highly controversial as it impacts compatability. 

David,

What is the HP debate?

In first to third edition HP Sauce has only 37 varieties?

Really, it's Hit Points which are equal to Health in the earlier editions and Strength in the current edition.  The issue of course is dinosaurs.  If a T Rex have 300 Strength 10 Fatigue, 10 Health, and 300 Hitpoints, it's fairly clear that Strength is tied to mass and Health isn't so you'd have an abomination like ST 300/10,HT10/300 instead of just ST 300, HT 10.  The really sad thing is it would have worked great for superheroes if they'd just put some effort in from the start of fourth edition but instead you get abominations like ST1000/15, HT15.
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Kage2020

#78
November 05, 2023, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on November 01, 2023, 08:32:57 PM...but instead you get abominations like ST1000/15, HT15.
Kind of reminds me of the Martians from War of the Worlds.
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Aglondir

#79
November 06, 2023, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on November 01, 2023, 08:32:57 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on November 01, 2023, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on October 28, 2023, 11:35:59 AM
Even fixing issues like Super Strength, breaking Dexterity down a bit, or ending the Hit Points debate by making them equal Strength + Health becomes highly controversial as it impacts compatability. 

David,

What is the HP debate?

In first to third edition HP Sauce has only 37 varieties?

Really, it's Hit Points which are equal to Health in the earlier editions and Strength in the current edition.  The issue of course is dinosaurs.  If a T Rex have 300 Strength 10 Fatigue, 10 Health, and 300 Hitpoints, it's fairly clear that Strength is tied to mass and Health isn't so you'd have an abomination like ST 300/10,HT10/300 instead of just ST 300, HT 10.  The really sad thing is it would have worked great for superheroes if they'd just put some effort in from the start of fourth edition but instead you get abominations like ST1000/15, HT15.

Gotcha. Thought it was that, just wanted to make sure. Easily solvable by making HP it's own attribute (like Hero 6E.)

About once a year I think "I'm going revisit that Gurps Heartbreaker I've been working on all these years" but two days later I realize there's too many things about Gurps I dislike. If I published it, the Gurps fans would hate it (What? No Weirdness Magnet? No Voice? Charisma is an att?) and the rest of the RPG world would hate it as well (What? Roll-under? 70 skills? Dodge rolls?)

It's becoming a strange transporter accident between Gurps, Hero, and a bit of D20.

Exploderwizard

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November 07, 2023, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: Aglondir on November 06, 2023, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on November 01, 2023, 08:32:57 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on November 01, 2023, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on October 28, 2023, 11:35:59 AM
Even fixing issues like Super Strength, breaking Dexterity down a bit, or ending the Hit Points debate by making them equal Strength + Health becomes highly controversial as it impacts compatability. 

David,

What is the HP debate?

In first to third edition HP Sauce has only 37 varieties?

Really, it's Hit Points which are equal to Health in the earlier editions and Strength in the current edition.  The issue of course is dinosaurs.  If a T Rex have 300 Strength 10 Fatigue, 10 Health, and 300 Hitpoints, it's fairly clear that Strength is tied to mass and Health isn't so you'd have an abomination like ST 300/10,HT10/300 instead of just ST 300, HT 10.  The really sad thing is it would have worked great for superheroes if they'd just put some effort in from the start of fourth edition but instead you get abominations like ST1000/15, HT15.

Gotcha. Thought it was that, just wanted to make sure. Easily solvable by making HP it's own attribute (like Hero 6E.)

About once a year I think "I'm going revisit that Gurps Heartbreaker I've been working on all these years" but two days later I realize there's too many things about Gurps I dislike. If I published it, the Gurps fans would hate it (What? No Weirdness Magnet? No Voice? Charisma is an att?) and the rest of the RPG world would hate it as well (What? Roll-under? 70 skills? Dodge rolls?)

It's becoming a strange transporter accident between Gurps, Hero, and a bit of D20.

My HP solution was to make HP = STR+HTH/2 That way you take both stats into account. It is kind of like the encumbrance stat I am making for my OSR game. Encumbrance = STR+CON/2.
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David Johansen

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November 07, 2023, 09:52:01 AM
I did ST + HT and upped damages by a die.  GURPS doesn't scale down any better than it scales up and putting 2d at 10 gives you more play on the lower end of things.
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