Quote from: Benoist;546931Well that's not like it's a super original conversation surrounding 4e either, right? Though I liked the whole dunking analogy here.

The biggest drawback of that analogy is now I feel dirty.  I'm a Portland Trailblazer fan, and I hate Kobe.

Quote from: B.T.;546933Thread status: Mistwelled.

Well it's better than a thread getting "BTed" if you want my opinion on that front. :hand:

Quote from: Marleycat;546914We get the gist please don't be so pendatic for the sake of it.

If I were quoting the head of WOTC marketing as being an example of old-school RPG gaming deep-knowledge, you'd probably react.  I mean sure, the person works for an RPG company, but that's not the name you want to use as an example of old-school RPG gaming deep-knowledge, right?

I'm a basketball fan.  Using Kobe as an example of dunking is, to a basketball fan, like using the head of WOTC marketing in an old-school RPG gaming deep-knowledge example.  He used to be able to dunk, and in theory he still can (and on very rare occassion does), but he's not the guy basketball fans would mention when it comes to the topic of dunking (anymore).

Make sense now?  One person's pedant is another's normal fan.

Quote from: CRKrueger;546926Doesn't that mean you have to revoke your Boston citizenship?

Probably. I am one of those people from Boston that never actually goes into Boston (at least I avoid it as much as I can). The only sport I can watch is boxing. Baseball, basketball, football and even hockey put me to sleep. The most boring day of my life was spent at a Red Sox game back when Jim Rice was playing. For all I know my Boston citizenship was never even granted in the first place.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;546934The biggest drawback of that analogy is now I feel dirty.  I'm a Portland Trailblazer fan, and I hate Kobe.

You fuckers just stole our general manager!

You're going to love him.  Neil Olshey is very effective.

I hate Kobe too...and from the above I am sure you can tell which team I am a fan of.

Me and my wife actually love watching boxing matches...

Quote from: Sacrosanct;546921I used his name knowing that not many people are basketball fans, but nearly everyone knows who Kobe is.

Quote from: Marleycat;546923Thanks given I don't know who Blake Griffin is it was very helpful to me in understanding the analogy.

Don't you people watch Kia commercials?

You DID mistwell the thread Mark, you fucker...

Quote from: Benoist;546939Me and my wife actually love watching boxing matches...

Clearly you married the right woman.

Quote from: Mistwell;546940Don't you people watch Kia commercials?

I tend to watch non network stuff. Or DVR it, or just click until I find something that's not a commercial.
 
I do like watching baseball and football though.

Quote from: Mistwell;546938I hate Kobe too...and from the above I am sure you can tell which team I am a fan of.

Ah, so your issue with my usage of Kobe isn't so much that I used Kobe, but the fact that I didn't use the guy off of your favorite team and instead used a hated player.  The truth comes out  

Quote from: Mistwell;546908Um, sure there is.  He's not a dunker.

(1) He's won slam dunk contests.

(2) Slam dunk stats seem hard to come by, but in the 2007-08 season he was in the Top 30 for slam dunks in the league (link).

(3) In 2005-06 he had a 94% success with slam dunks, compared to a 43% success with all field goals.

(4) Bryant's skill or reputation as a dunker is, in fact, completely irrelevant to the analogy. The more you argue that he doesn't dunk very much (despite being much more successful at dunking than other types of shooting) only confirms the aptness of the analogy.

(5) In short, the only way your complaint could have any merit at all is if Kobe either (a) were physically incapable of dunking and/or (b) literally never did it. Are you arguing that either of these statements is true? Or are you going to admit that you're full of shit?

What it comes down to is, who can't Kobe dunk on, if he really wants to?  The answer: nobody.  

Quote from: CRKrueger;546949What it comes down to is, who can't Kobe dunk on, if he really wants to?

A 19-year-old girl.

Quote from: Mistwell;546908Um, sure there is.  He's not a dunker.

Being English, not dunking biscuits in your tea is a crime.