Most Criminally Over-rated Game

Simlasa · November 11, 2011, 06:05:47 PM

I think Nobilis gets my vote as seeming to be the most talked about/talked up game vs. how many people actually owned or played it... famous for being famous. I've seen it come up in conversations where it turns out no one talking about it had ever seen it.

David Johansen · November 11, 2011, 06:27:40 PM

Quote from: kryyst;489232Savage Worlds, it's bland, it's generic, it has never really felt like it fit into any genre we've tried to use it for. It's kinda like D&D in that regard. Savage Worlds makes any setting just feel like Savage Worlds. The same way that regardless of what setting you throw at D&D it just feels like D&D.

To be fair this is true of any game. GURPS, Hero, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, they have their own flavor that may or may not compliment the setting.

VectorSigma · November 11, 2011, 06:33:54 PM

Quote from: D-503;489228I always had the impression too that those were largely separate fanbases.

I'll respectfully disagree, but freely admit that my LARP groups may not be representative.

TristramEvans · November 11, 2011, 10:15:48 PM

I see the thread has become "over-rated on RPG.net's forums" as opposed to over-rated among hobbyists.

99% of roleplayers I've met have never heard of Nobilis or Riddle of Steel.

David Johansen · November 11, 2011, 10:17:57 PM

I suspect you've dropped some decimal places.

TristramEvans · November 11, 2011, 11:19:18 PM

Quote from: David Johansen;489277I suspect you've dropped some decimal places.

I've met one person IRL who'd heard of Riddle of Steel (including every FLGS worker I've ever conversed with), and I've met 2 people who had heard of (but never seen let alone played) Nobilis, and both of them heard of it on RPG.net.

crkrueger · November 11, 2011, 11:39:18 PM

Quote from: TristramEvans;489289Nope. I've met one person IRL who'd heard of Riddle of Steel (including every FLGS worker I've ever conversed with), and I've met 2 people who had heard of (but never seen let alone played) Nobilis, and both of them heard of it on RPG.net.

I think he meant you were right, and dropping decimal places meant it's really 99.999999999%

TristramEvans · November 11, 2011, 11:47:02 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;489296I think he meant you were right, and dropping decimal places meant it's really 99.999999999%

oh. my math-fu is not strong.

daniel_ream · November 12, 2011, 01:35:56 AM

Your math-fu corresponds with mine; I have met one person IRL who had heard of TRoS (and is the only reason I've ever heard of it); I have actually seen a copy of Nobilis 2nd ed in the wild, but I didn't know what it was at the time. It was at a small RPG store in a university town that seemed to only carry small press and indie games. It went out of business three months after it opened.

DominikSchwager · November 12, 2011, 01:38:19 AM

Seeing as we play it, all the people in my group have heard of Nobilis

Simlasa · November 12, 2011, 02:20:25 AM

Maybe I'm hanging out with bad people... Nobilis was a topic amongst folks I know here a while back. I'd be surprised it was all generated by RPG.net... but maybe.

Skywalker · November 12, 2011, 03:44:35 AM

Quote from: TristramEvans;48927699% of roleplayers I've met have never heard of Nobilis or Riddle of Steel.

My main disappointment with TRoS is that I sold it before it became really valuable. But yeah, it kind of sucked except for people with very specifics tastes.

Nobilis is very popular around here though. In fact, there was a Nobilis LARP held in town just last night.

skofflox · November 12, 2011, 06:08:18 AM

Quote from: Skywalker;489316My main disappointment with TRoS is that I sold it before it became really valuable. But yeah, it kind of sucked except for people with very specifics tastes.
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TRoS broke my heart...and I too sold it all to soon...

After 30 odd sessions I think Pathfinder is overated.

valency · November 12, 2011, 06:57:15 AM

GURPS. I simply can't understand why this game has a fanbase. Character generation is an exercise in tedious point accountancy and min-maxing. Characters who take stupid disads to buff their characters can force the game into silliness. (If you /want/ to play a character with OCD, fine. But when the game gives you points for doing so, it just encourages a party of weirdos with bizarre quirks.)

The settings are bland, the sourcebooks dull, and most of them are stuffed full of various packages and options,most of which are completely pointless. GURPS: Martial Arts, for example, has dozens of special moves, but no clear rationale for why you would use them in preference to your best attack.

Windjammer · November 12, 2011, 07:25:44 AM

Burning Wheel and Savage Worlds come to mind where the hype doesn't synch up with merit.

But getting lots of hype by a vocal (and possibly small) fanbase and being generally (and erroneously) well regarded are two different things.

Which games don't deserve the high regard they receive by the general gaming populace?

Clear answer to me is Pathfinder RPG. The worst design 'fix' I've ever seen in the entire history of RPGs, but a stunning commercial success to boot.

Similarly, apart from a few isolated on here, you'll have a hard time finding people online (and esp. offline) who are willing to concede that the 40k RPG rulesets are terribly designed and deserve a quick death.