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Author Topic: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D  (Read 2796 times)

jeff37923

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2022, 07:33:48 PM »
Well, they are bad for playing D&D when there are much better games out there.

Pfft, name 15.

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Call of Cthulhu

Oh, sorry. That is over 15 games better than D&D.....

Hell, if you wanted to get nitpicky, DnD 3.x and Pathfinder 1e are both better than the current DnD 5e. The only game worse than DnD 5e that comes to mind is DnD 4e.
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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2022, 09:59:59 PM »
It does feel like some have a tougher time telling reality from fantasy than others.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2022, 10:08:29 PM »
Eh… what the heck. 15 I enjoy far better than D&D

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2022, 10:26:29 PM »
Someone didn't get beaten up and tossed into enough lockers enough as a kid.

Greetings!

Yep! All the socially retarded troglodytes needed to get their asses kicked. Scum like this stupid fucker needs to be "Bullied" relentlessly, to constantly remind them of why they are worthless scum, and deserve it.

This is why we are in the state of affairs we have today, because society allowed schools en masse to be feminized and turned into entitled pussies.

What is missing so much with these kinds of morons, is they didn't get their asses beat enough. Like you said, my friend.

It's amazing how more polite, intelligent, and civil society is when if you run your mouth like a jackass, or just stupidly offend people left and right, you get punched in the fucking mouth and beaten the fuck down. While everyone watching stares at the jackass and laughs at them.

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It irritates me because, y'know, I'm a geek too. I never got pushed into any lockers, but that didn't mean I didn't deal with my fair share of dickhead jockstrap toads.

But holy shit, these people make me hate them because they're so fucking stupid.

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2022, 03:12:29 AM »
Greetings!

*Laughing* REEE! REEE!

The Twitter guy Reeing about D&D violence is a fucking pussy, and a Marxist bitch.


Over on BGG theyve been bitching about this on and off again since at least 5e came out.

Its really pathetic when these sociopaths point at RPGs or anything else and decry them as violent or promoting violence. They are so disconnected from reality that its a wonder they dont just vanish in a poof of logic.

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2022, 06:49:18 AM »
Well, they are bad for playing D&D when there are much better games out there.

Much better games out there for what exactly? To enjoy performing violence better???!! ;D

The only one I can immediately think of might be SJG's Killer? (OK not an rpg)

Or maybe you were thinking of one of these new fangled story games where if you roll well you get to describe the action!

Player: Oooh look I rolled well, so I'll describe how the 'After being hit by the magical attack, the squished body explodes like an egg in a microwave spraying blood everywhere!'

You're absolutely right Jeff, that's far better than just saying 'I do 12 points of damage'!

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2022, 07:19:05 AM »
Well, they are bad for playing D&D when there are much better games out there.

Pfft, name 15.

In my own experience, conceptually I could name quite a few games that I liked better than any edition of D&D. But in play, I often found them to be lacking. I think it depends a lot on whether the group is as into the game as the GM is, really.

Around here, there’s not much of a market for anything but D&D, and more specifically 5E. Most people just don’t get excited for any other game. I have a hard time getting any other games into play regardless of whether I might think that game is objectively better or not. Hell, I’d rather run Shadowrun, Savage Worlds, or Traveller than any edition of D&D at all.

I’m fortunate to have recently found a group that is willing to give Shadowrun a shot.

To add, they are even excited about it. The prospect has generated more discussion about the game, the setting, and what they would like to do with their characters than any discussion generated by past sessions of D&D.
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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2022, 08:02:45 AM »
Well, they are bad for playing D&D when there are much better games out there.

Much better games out there for what exactly? To enjoy performing violence better???!! ;D

The only one I can immediately think of might be SJG's Killer? (OK not an rpg)

Or maybe you were thinking of one of these new fangled story games where if you roll well you get to describe the action!

Player: Oooh look I rolled well, so I'll describe how the 'After being hit by the magical attack, the squished body explodes like an egg in a microwave spraying blood everywhere!'

You're absolutely right Jeff, that's far better than just saying 'I do 12 points of damage'!

  Spoken like someone who's never seen a Rolemaster critical table ... :)

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2022, 08:16:06 AM »
Well, they are bad for playing D&D when there are much better games out there.

Much better games out there for what exactly? To enjoy performing violence better???!! ;D

The only one I can immediately think of might be SJG's Killer? (OK not an rpg)

Or maybe you were thinking of one of these new fangled story games where if you roll well you get to describe the action!

Player: Oooh look I rolled well, so I'll describe how the 'After being hit by the magical attack, the squished body explodes like an egg in a microwave spraying blood everywhere!'

You're absolutely right Jeff, that's far better than just saying 'I do 12 points of damage'!

  Spoken like someone who's never seen a Rolemaster critical table ... :)
(muffled screaming)

And haha. You said 'table', singular.

But yeah, unless you're playing RaHoWa or FATAL I'm personally not into shaming people for their choice of game. Setting choices, maybe ('Oh noez, we can't have bad things in our game, it gives us the badfeels!'), but hardly systems. Every system has its strengths and weaknesses.


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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2022, 11:19:31 AM »
Well, they are bad for playing D&D when there are much better games out there.

Much better games out there for what exactly? To enjoy performing violence better???!! ;D

The only one I can immediately think of might be SJG's Killer? (OK not an rpg)

Or maybe you were thinking of one of these new fangled story games where if you roll well you get to describe the action!

Player: Oooh look I rolled well, so I'll describe how the 'After being hit by the magical attack, the squished body explodes like an egg in a microwave spraying blood everywhere!'

You're absolutely right Jeff, that's far better than just saying 'I do 12 points of damage'!

  Spoken like someone who's never seen a Rolemaster critical table ... :)

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2022, 02:43:55 PM »
Greetings!

5E D&D is a great game. All the 5E haters can eat bananas.

Yes, everyone, everywhere, likes D&D. Everyone--including lots of women--want to play D&D. No one gives a fuck about some obscure circle jerk game that you like. Yes, that's right. Obscure, forgotten games will sit there and collect dust, or even if you and a few of your friends play such an obscure game, the obscure games are still largely forgotten and ignored. They are forgotten in game stores; they are forgotten on major online stores; they are forgotten on college campuses; they are forgotten on popular You-Tube Channels.

Meanwhile, it is so easy to get a group of players together for D&D5E, virtually anywhere.

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2022, 02:51:17 PM »
Greetings!

5E D&D is a great game. All the 5E haters can eat bananas.

Yes, everyone, everywhere, likes D&D. Everyone--including lots of women--want to play D&D. No one gives a fuck about some obscure circle jerk game that you like. Yes, that's right. Obscure, forgotten games will sit there and collect dust, or even if you and a few of your friends play such an obscure game, the obscure games are still largely forgotten and ignored. They are forgotten in game stores; they are forgotten on major online stores; they are forgotten on college campuses; they are forgotten on popular You-Tube Channels.

Meanwhile, it is so easy to get a group of players together for D&D5E, virtually anywhere.

Semper Fidelis,

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I don't get the hate for 5e. It's not perfect, it's not the best, it's fun and simple enough for people to pickup and learn in a few hours.

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2022, 03:26:23 PM »
I don't get the hate for 5e. It's not perfect, it's not the best, it's fun and simple enough for people to pickup and learn in a few hours.

I understand the hate. Agree with everything you said, but I understand why people get annoyed with 5e. Outside an out of control power scale, the issue for many is the way it has been marketed and expanded over the years. That Tabaxi Flower Mood Druid, or one of the other 50 dumb concepts is coming to a table near you.

WOTC has taken a tight set of core rules and let themselves go, much like the androgynous blobs found throughout RPG twitter.

The 5e DMG is severely underrated though. With all of the different customization options, 5e can run any genre. 5e PHB, 5e DMG, and something like Random Esoteric Creature Generator, and you are off to the races. When you strip it down, the mechanics are simple and clean. The DMG even fixes some of the power scale when you do things like modify long/short rest requirements. It is all in there, and technically by the book.

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2022, 03:45:06 PM »
Someone didn't get beaten up and tossed into enough lockers enough as a kid.

Greetings!

Yep! All the socially retarded troglodytes needed to get their asses kicked. Scum like this stupid fucker needs to be "Bullied" relentlessly, to constantly remind them of why they are worthless scum, and deserve it.

This is why we are in the state of affairs we have today, because society allowed schools en masse to be feminized and turned into entitled pussies.

What is missing so much with these kinds of morons, is they didn't get their asses beat enough. Like you said, my friend.

It's amazing how more polite, intelligent, and civil society is when if you run your mouth like a jackass, or just stupidly offend people left and right, you get punched in the fucking mouth and beaten the fuck down. While everyone watching stares at the jackass and laughs at them.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

But you think you wouldn't be one of the ones getting beaten down for the way you're talking?

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Re: Moral Black-Hole Thinks You're Bad for Playing D&D
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2022, 03:52:46 PM »

I don't get the hate for 5e. It's not perfect, it's not the best, it's fun and simple enough for people to pickup and learn in a few hours.

Grognard's gonna Grognard and all that jazz.   

I don’t hate it. I’m just bored with it as a system, precisely became everyone wants to play that and only that rules set to accomplish play in any and every genre imaginable. And I’d rather use almost any other system at this point.

I’ll agree with the other poster who mentioned DMG modifications can make it more fun to run as a GM less superhero fantasy gamey.

I have yet to experience gaming with any group that would consider those modifications in play without throwing a fit, though. I just don’t have a very eclectic bunch of folks to choose from around here. For most it’s vanilla 5E from the PHB or nothing, and they can find a table that fits their wants just around the corner if I stick to my guns on changing things things up outside of their PHB paradigm.

Oh well…