Quote from: Mor'du;1103794Seems like Monty has to change his colours in order to keep his desk?.... I dunno, this stuff was never an issue before. I'm perplexed. it's fantasy an escape from the "real world" -they'd like to see us old timers out of their safe space methinks.

More likely, it's that he's banging Shanna Germain and wishes to continue doing so.

After checking out the checklist in the back, it doesnt seem so bad.

Quote from: Alexander Kalinowski;1103800Is Monte Cook really such a great designer? Famous, sure, but... is there anything original about D&D 3E? And regarding d20 Cthulhu - where is it now? Has it gone anywhere, really?
Numenera is successful, alright, Invisible Sun raised huge funds. I am just not entirely sure about their respective design merits. Do they have any impact on the design of other games?
I guess I rate people like Stafford/Peterson, Greg Costikyan, Charrette/Hume/Dowd, Rick Priestley and later Fred Hicks and Vincent Baker higher.

Not saying he's a bad designer, I just feel unimpressed - unless I have overlooked important games.

Couldn't tell you who half those people are, but I know Cook.

Good enough for me.

Quote from: Tait Ransom;1103939More likely, it's that he's banging Shanna Germain and wishes to continue doing so.

Heh that's actually what I was surmising.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1103919Fuck, if WOTC has gone woke, the hobby is fucked.

Hardly. WotC could go down in flames - and it wouldn't impact my gaming at all. I don't think it would adversely impact anyone currently playing D&D either. The games are out there in the wild. Someone would pick up the IP and it would continue anew.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1103919Either Hasbro will bail them out or throw them to the wolves if the wokeness starts causing brokeness.

We've already seen what SJW Leftism did to White Wolf (and by extension Onyx Path) and what it's doing to Paizo, and those were two of their more prolific competitors at different points in time.

Well that's why you should get your bags of marshmallows and skewers, pull up a chair, and enjoy the fire. It'll burn itself out on its own.

There are enough D & D resources on the market right now, to stretch coast to coast across America.  If they stopped publishing content right now, D & D would keep on rocking for decades to come.

Quote from: Tait Ransom;1103939More likely, it's that he's banging Shanna Germain and wishes to continue doing so.

She's not bad looking - when I googled the name I was expecting more of a purple-haired walrus. I do think it's likely she's pushing BDSM values into TTRPGs where they don't belong. But it sounds as if the men may be the greater sinners here. Unlike my initial assumption that the names I recognised (Cook & Reynolds) were being influenced by the wicked female.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1103805Monte Cook is the best in the hobby at fleshing out ideas. (snip)

Ptolus was a superb piece of design, publishing, and marketing. He was the best marketer in the hobby for many years.

I also remain enamoured with the Complete Book of Eldritch Might or its three constituent books. Sure, some of the ideas are imbalanced but it's refreshingly creative. I've stolen a lot of the ideas for my 4E games.

Numenera, however, left me a bit cold. I don't blame Monte for that; it just wasn't what I was looking for. I did love the art and visual sensibilities, however.

Cook is a Maoist? Sound the alarm! Activate the National Guard! Put on your gas masks! Iceberg! Iceberg! WE'RE ALL DOOOOOOMED!

(And i should give a shit because WHY...?)

My Cook of choice is Zeb.

Quote from: S'mon;1103958I do think it's likely she's pushing BDSM values into TTRPGs where they don't belong.

I'd have to say that is exactly what is going on.

Quote from: Snowman0147;1103920Thank God for individuals who want to make their own forks to counter this insanity.

Amen to that!

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1103951Couldn't tell you who half those people are, but I know Cook.

Good enough for me.

There's plenty of famous singers and there's actual pioneers.

Quote from: Alexander Kalinowski;1104015There's plenty of famous singers and there's actual pioneers.

But who gets to decide what is great? There are lots of musicians and singers who appeal to a narrow selection of critics, or who appeal to other musicians, because they seem to be carving new ground, or because they are doing things that musicians find interesting. And there is definitely a place for that. But there is also something to be said for people who can appeal to a much broader audience. I think greatness operates on multiple levels here: technical skill, audience appeal, how inspired the person is, how innovative. I don't think you can just pick 'innovation' as the thing to measure. It is one thing, and it is often important, but innovation for its own sake, without thinking of the other categories, points you in the direction of something with very narrow appeal.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1104027But who gets to decide what is great?

Well, as a general rule, if they need AutoTune to actually sell their product... they're definitely not great.