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Margaret Weis: Whistle-blower or Vindictive Hag?

Started by RPGPundit, October 18, 2011, 12:32:24 PM

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#60
October 31, 2011, 10:32:58 PM
Quote from: B.T.;4873374e was so successful that they needed to publish 5e to compete with it so that 4e wouldn't steal all of WotC's sales.

Brilliant!
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A nice education blog.

Alucard

#61
October 31, 2011, 11:34:48 PM
Quote from: The_Shadow;487375It never ceases to amaze me how people can talk out of their arse. There are no such public sales reports for 4e.

Jackwipe. Wizards is part of Hasbro, which is a publicaly traded company, which means Hasbro has to release quarterly sales reports for parent and child companies to the public for the stock holders. READ LEARN USE YOUR MIND
Things seem to clear now..

TheShadow

#62
October 31, 2011, 11:59:57 PM
Quote from: Alucard;487403Wizards is part of Hasbro, which is a publicaly traded company, which means Hasbro has to release quarterly sales reports for parent and child companies to the public for the stock holders. READ LEARN USE YOUR MIND

How many copies of any or all 4e products have sold? What is WotC's turnover? This information is not in the public domain.

Just to keep in the spirit of things: u MoRoN!!! lolz.
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daniel_ream

#63
November 01, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
Quote from: The_Shadow;487407How many copies of any or all 4e products have sold? What is WotC's turnover? This information is not in the public domain.

It's also not relevant to the question of whether 4E is meeting sales expectations.  As long as the report contains a line item for the 4E product category, then all the information management cares about is public domain.  Sales figures for individual books, print runs, etc are the province of the brand manager or product manager.  That's operational data, not strategic.
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B.T.

#64
November 01, 2011, 05:32:50 PM
As the Butcher noted, this thread is classic Pundit: vicious, speculative gossip with a touch of hyperbole.  And it's why I love this site.
Quote from: Black Vulmea;530561Y\'know, I\'ve learned something from this thread. Both B.T. and Koltar are idiots, but whereas B.T. possesses a malign intelligence, Koltar is just a drooling fuckwit.

So, that\'s something, I guess.

TheShadow

#65
November 01, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;487473It's also not relevant to the question of whether 4E is meeting sales expectations.  As long as the report contains a line item for the 4E product category, then all the information management cares about is public domain.  Sales figures for individual books, print runs, etc are the province of the brand manager or product manager.  That's operational data, not strategic.

Your arse must be capacious, given that you pulled all the above from it. Both the idea that this "line item" would satisfy what Alutard said existed, viz.

Quote from: AlutardThe statement of 4E not living upto the what it was supposed to be, anyone can figure that out, by looking at sales reports of the last 2 years, which is public.

and the very existence of said "line item".

Better luck next time!
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danbuter

#66
November 01, 2011, 10:19:55 PM
I don't know how Hasbro does its reporting, but if they even just have a line item saying WotC = $10,000,000, that gives enough info, since you can just start looking at past quarters to see if this number goes up or down.
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#67
November 01, 2011, 10:40:48 PM
Quote from: danbuter;487615I don't know how Hasbro does its reporting, but if they even just have a line item saying WotC = $10,000,000, that gives enough info, since you can just start looking at past quarters to see if this number goes up or down.
That assumes that releases in a given year are equal.
Corebooks sell better than supplements (generally speaking).

So you could release just the three corebooks one year, make $6 million, and release 12 supplements the next, making $10 million. You made more money the 2nd year, but you likely made more profit the first (assuming you don't sell your core at reduced cost, compared to supplements).

Print runs, expected sales, revenue generated per sale, etc can all affect the bottom line.
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#68
November 02, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: The_Shadow;487608Your arse must be capacious, given that you pulled all the above from it.

You've never actually read a quarterly earnings report, have you?
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#69
November 02, 2011, 01:50:41 AM
Quote from: danbuter;487615I don't know how Hasbro does its reporting, but if they even just have a line item saying WotC = $10,000,000, that gives enough info, since you can just start looking at past quarters to see if this number goes up or down.
Assuming that the variability in Magic Sales is not itself enough to completely mask the success level of D&D.
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