The magical realm mushrooms and the ad's very knowing language makes me think it was a deliberate troll.

Then again some of these Male Feminists often are that tone death so who knows.

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Anedote time!

The closest I've come to an "uncomfortable situation", I was GMing a 2e Dark Sun game. Everyone had rolled up wild talents, and a woman player had... I don't have the book handy, it's an 'attraction' talent, and she used that thing unmercifully on male NPCs. They were parleying with elf raiders, and she used the ability on the raider chief. Up until then, I hadn't wanted to "go there", but the situation was pretty clear to my mind. She successully used the ability on the raider chief, and I role played him "Execute them all, but the woman. Have her taken to my tent!"

I'm not squeamish, but I run a PG-13 game, it was in a public place, and the player's husband was also at the table. So I had no plans to run a "rape scene". They wound up fighting the raiders anyway, so it was moot. But for a while there, I was staring down the barrel of resolving a rather ticklish situation.

So my "uncomfortable situation" was completely driven by the actions of the player in question, and from my read on the table, I felt pretty justified in how I ran the encounter.

Well, clearly the consent worksheet would have solved this situation.

Like it did in the game of the video? The women clearly said what they didn't want, then tried to have the DM to stop... Yep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

We clearly need a text marker to indicate sarcasm on this site.   ... Beyond the one guy who said that he indicates sarcasm by black text

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

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Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PM

Quote from: horsesoldier on March 16, 2021, 01:00:32 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on March 16, 2021, 04:33:22 AM
Anedote time!

The closest I've come to an "uncomfortable situation", I was GMing a 2e Dark Sun game. Everyone had rolled up wild talents, and a woman player had... I don't have the book handy, it's an 'attraction' talent, and she used that thing unmercifully on male NPCs. They were parleying with elf raiders, and she used the ability on the raider chief. Up until then, I hadn't wanted to "go there", but the situation was pretty clear to my mind. She successully used the ability on the raider chief, and I role played him "Execute them all, but the woman. Have her taken to my tent!"

I'm not squeamish, but I run a PG-13 game, it was in a public place, and the player's husband was also at the table. So I had no plans to run a "rape scene". They wound up fighting the raiders anyway, so it was moot. But for a while there, I was staring down the barrel of resolving a rather ticklish situation.

So my "uncomfortable situation" was completely driven by the actions of the player in question, and from my read on the table, I felt pretty justified in how I ran the encounter.

Well, clearly the consent worksheet would have solved this situation.

Like it did in the game of the video? The women clearly said what they didn't want, then tried to have the DM to stop... Yep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

We clearly need a text marker to indicate sarcasm on this site.   ... Beyond the one guy who said that he indicates sarcasm by black text

Welp, if you were being sarcastic my bad, as for a marker... What's wrong with the old /S ?

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Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

Players need to learn the only right they have, to leave the table. It's also the most powerful "safety" tool. Just get up (or log off) and leave, then tell your buddies the DM is an asshole.

Then again, the people more likely to TRULLY need "safety" tools are also the les likely to be able to use them when needed. What they need (before even thinking of playing RPGs) is some therapy.

None of which excuses, or pretends to excuse, the asshole predators that would and do abuse said "safety" tools.

e: IDGAF

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 08:18:15 PM
Welp, if you were being sarcastic my bad, as for a marker... What's wrong with the old /S ?

Telling people you're being sarcastic defeats the purpose of using sarcasm.

Another boy who needs to learn to be a man. I suspect an absent father. In the absence of a father, or father figure, a boy may take inspiration from myth.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 08:23:16 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

Players need to learn the only right they have, to leave the table. It's also the most powerful "safety" tool. Just get up (or log off) and leave, then tell your buddies the DM is an asshole.

Then again, the people more likely to TRULLY need "safety" tools are also the les likely to be able to use them when needed. What they need (before even thinking of playing RPGs) is some therapy.

None of which excuses, or pretends to excuse, the asshole predators that would and do abuse said "safety" tools.

In fairness if it was a convention game and you paid money to be at the session I would say you would in principle (if not practice) have more rights than just the right to leave.   But then again I also wholeheatedly agree with your second sentence.

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Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 08:23:16 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

Players need to learn the only right they have, to leave the table. It's also the most powerful "safety" tool. Just get up (or log off) and leave, then tell your buddies the DM is an asshole.

Then again, the people more likely to TRULLY need "safety" tools are also the les likely to be able to use them when needed. What they need (before even thinking of playing RPGs) is some therapy.

None of which excuses, or pretends to excuse, the asshole predators that would and do abuse said "safety" tools.

In fairness if it was a convention game and you paid money to be at the session I would say you would in principle (if not practice) have more rights than just the right to leave.   But then again I also wholeheatedly agree with your second sentence.

If you piss me off enough to cause me to leave the table at a convention, rest assured I will be pissed off enough to file a formal complaint with the convention organizers. As you noted, if I pay money for a game slot and the guy running it is a complete jackwagon, I'm not gonna be real happy.

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Quote from: Visitor Q on March 17, 2021, 09:30:33 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 08:23:16 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

Players need to learn the only right they have, to leave the table. It's also the most powerful "safety" tool. Just get up (or log off) and leave, then tell your buddies the DM is an asshole.

Then again, the people more likely to TRULLY need "safety" tools are also the les likely to be able to use them when needed. What they need (before even thinking of playing RPGs) is some therapy.

None of which excuses, or pretends to excuse, the asshole predators that would and do abuse said "safety" tools.

In fairness if it was a convention game and you paid money to be at the session I would say you would in principle (if not practice) have more rights than just the right to leave.   But then again I also wholeheatedly agree with your second sentence.

If you piss me off enough to cause me to leave the table at a convention, rest assured I will be pissed off enough to file a formal complaint with the convention organizers. As you noted, if I pay money for a game slot and the guy running it is a complete jackwagon, I'm not gonna be real happy.

Even so, my ability to walk away from the table is undiminished. In fact, I have an additional incentive to do so - walking away puts action to my distaste, and better supports my complaint to the convention organizers.

So, no. No "paid money at a convention" exception. No exceptions at all.

I call it Rule Prime - no one is forcing you to play, no one is forcing you to stay. Don't like the game? Find a game you do like, or run one yourself.

Quote from: RandyB on March 18, 2021, 08:32:33 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 18, 2021, 08:23:44 AM

Quote from: Visitor Q on March 17, 2021, 09:30:33 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 08:23:16 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

Players need to learn the only right they have, to leave the table. It's also the most powerful "safety" tool. Just get up (or log off) and leave, then tell your buddies the DM is an asshole.

Then again, the people more likely to TRULLY need "safety" tools are also the les likely to be able to use them when needed. What they need (before even thinking of playing RPGs) is some therapy.

None of which excuses, or pretends to excuse, the asshole predators that would and do abuse said "safety" tools.

In fairness if it was a convention game and you paid money to be at the session I would say you would in principle (if not practice) have more rights than just the right to leave.   But then again I also wholeheatedly agree with your second sentence.

If you piss me off enough to cause me to leave the table at a convention, rest assured I will be pissed off enough to file a formal complaint with the convention organizers. As you noted, if I pay money for a game slot and the guy running it is a complete jackwagon, I'm not gonna be real happy.

Even so, my ability to walk away from the table is undiminished. In fact, I have an additional incentive to do so - walking away puts action to my distaste, and better supports my complaint to the convention organizers.

So, no. No "paid money at a convention" exception. No exceptions at all.

I call it Rule Prime - no one is forcing you to play, no one is forcing you to stay. Don't like the game? Find a game you do like, or run one yourself.

Oh, no argument. Walking away is the best action.

It doesn't obviate OTHER actions though.

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Quote from: RandyB on March 18, 2021, 08:32:33 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 18, 2021, 08:23:44 AM

Quote from: Visitor Q on March 17, 2021, 09:30:33 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 08:23:16 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

Players need to learn the only right they have, to leave the table. It's also the most powerful "safety" tool. Just get up (or log off) and leave, then tell your buddies the DM is an asshole.

Then again, the people more likely to TRULLY need "safety" tools are also the les likely to be able to use them when needed. What they need (before even thinking of playing RPGs) is some therapy.

None of which excuses, or pretends to excuse, the asshole predators that would and do abuse said "safety" tools.

In fairness if it was a convention game and you paid money to be at the session I would say you would in principle (if not practice) have more rights than just the right to leave.   But then again I also wholeheatedly agree with your second sentence.

If you piss me off enough to cause me to leave the table at a convention, rest assured I will be pissed off enough to file a formal complaint with the convention organizers. As you noted, if I pay money for a game slot and the guy running it is a complete jackwagon, I'm not gonna be real happy.

Even so, my ability to walk away from the table is undiminished. In fact, I have an additional incentive to do so - walking away puts action to my distaste, and better supports my complaint to the convention organizers.

So, no. No "paid money at a convention" exception. No exceptions at all.

I call it Rule Prime - no one is forcing you to play, no one is forcing you to stay. Don't like the game? Find a game you do like, or run one yourself.

Oh, no argument. Walking away is the best action.

It doesn't obviate OTHER actions though.

Embrace the healing power of "and".

Quote from: RandyB on March 18, 2021, 09:44:24 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 18, 2021, 09:32:48 AM

Quote from: RandyB on March 18, 2021, 08:32:33 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 18, 2021, 08:23:44 AM

Quote from: Visitor Q on March 17, 2021, 09:30:33 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 08:23:16 PM

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on March 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 16, 2021, 01:52:53 PMYep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.

I have long said that the most important phrase a game master has is, "No, don't be stupid."

Apparently some players need to use it, too.

Players need to learn the only right they have, to leave the table. It's also the most powerful "safety" tool. Just get up (or log off) and leave, then tell your buddies the DM is an asshole.

Then again, the people more likely to TRULLY need "safety" tools are also the les likely to be able to use them when needed. What they need (before even thinking of playing RPGs) is some therapy.

None of which excuses, or pretends to excuse, the asshole predators that would and do abuse said "safety" tools.

In fairness if it was a convention game and you paid money to be at the session I would say you would in principle (if not practice) have more rights than just the right to leave.   But then again I also wholeheatedly agree with your second sentence.

If you piss me off enough to cause me to leave the table at a convention, rest assured I will be pissed off enough to file a formal complaint with the convention organizers. As you noted, if I pay money for a game slot and the guy running it is a complete jackwagon, I'm not gonna be real happy.

Even so, my ability to walk away from the table is undiminished. In fact, I have an additional incentive to do so - walking away puts action to my distaste, and better supports my complaint to the convention organizers.

So, no. No "paid money at a convention" exception. No exceptions at all.

I call it Rule Prime - no one is forcing you to play, no one is forcing you to stay. Don't like the game? Find a game you do like, or run one yourself.

Oh, no argument. Walking away is the best action.

It doesn't obviate OTHER actions though.

Embrace the healing power of "and".

Just as a consumer I disagree with this. If a convention advertised 'One shot session Cracking Sword and Sorcery adventure in the Tomb of Gurak. Pre-Gen character (whatever system). 4 hours'.

I pay my admission fee.

We sit down at the table and the GM doesn't play out a sword and sorcery adventure but instead introduces a wierd creepy sex thing, obviously I will leave. But I also think I have the right to demand the organisers to put me in an actual sword and sorcery game being run. 

Would I actually get this? Probably depend on the event.  Interestingly this happened at a massive gaming convention in the UK a couple years back (I wasn't in the group it happened to). It made National news bizarrely. I think the GM was barred from running again.

Where it gets blurry is if you've paid money, refuse to leave the table but also carry on playing. Example 'The tentacle monster gropes you haha lose 10HP' 'Nah, I'm probably going to ignore that actually. Carry on though'. At a certain point the whole fiction of the table breaks down I suppose.

If it is a private club or gaming group I think that's completly different. In this case yes it is more less up to you to just leave.

From what i heard in said UK case the characters werr just knocked out and woke up in different clothes without their gear. Or am i misremembering this.