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Author Topic: Male feminist lures women to a "Gamming Safe Space", guess what happened next?  (Read 5855 times)

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« Last Edit: March 16, 2021, 04:08:25 AM by Ratman_tf »
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Anedote time!

The closest I've come to an "uncomfortable situation", I was GMing a 2e Dark Sun game. Everyone had rolled up wild talents, and a woman player had... I don't have the book handy, it's an 'attraction' talent, and she used that thing unmercifully on male NPCs. They were parleying with elf raiders, and she used the ability on the raider chief. Up until then, I hadn't wanted to "go there", but the situation was pretty clear to my mind. She successully used the ability on the raider chief, and I role played him "Execute them all, but the woman. Have her taken to my tent!"

I'm not squeamish, but I run a PG-13 game, it was in a public place, and the player's husband was also at the table. So I had no plans to run a "rape scene". They wound up fighting the raiders anyway, so it was moot. But for a while there, I was staring down the barrel of resolving a rather ticklish situation.

So my "uncomfortable situation" was completely driven by the actions of the player in question, and from my read on the table, I felt pretty justified in how I ran the encounter.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
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Anedote time!

The closest I've come to an "uncomfortable situation", I was GMing a 2e Dark Sun game. Everyone had rolled up wild talents, and a woman player had... I don't have the book handy, it's an 'attraction' talent, and she used that thing unmercifully on male NPCs. They were parleying with elf raiders, and she used the ability on the raider chief. Up until then, I hadn't wanted to "go there", but the situation was pretty clear to my mind. She successully used the ability on the raider chief, and I role played him "Execute them all, but the woman. Have her taken to my tent!"

I'm not squeamish, but I run a PG-13 game, it was in a public place, and the player's husband was also at the table. So I had no plans to run a "rape scene". They wound up fighting the raiders anyway, so it was moot. But for a while there, I was staring down the barrel of resolving a rather ticklish situation.

So my "uncomfortable situation" was completely driven by the actions of the player in question, and from my read on the table, I felt pretty justified in how I ran the encounter.

But you hadn't advertised it as a safe space, neither was the discussion had about avoiding that stuff and you could always resort to some fudging to get out of it.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell

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Anedote time!

The closest I've come to an "uncomfortable situation", I was GMing a 2e Dark Sun game. Everyone had rolled up wild talents, and a woman player had... I don't have the book handy, it's an 'attraction' talent, and she used that thing unmercifully on male NPCs. They were parleying with elf raiders, and she used the ability on the raider chief. Up until then, I hadn't wanted to "go there", but the situation was pretty clear to my mind. She successully used the ability on the raider chief, and I role played him "Execute them all, but the woman. Have her taken to my tent!"

I'm not squeamish, but I run a PG-13 game, it was in a public place, and the player's husband was also at the table. So I had no plans to run a "rape scene". They wound up fighting the raiders anyway, so it was moot. But for a while there, I was staring down the barrel of resolving a rather ticklish situation.

So my "uncomfortable situation" was completely driven by the actions of the player in question, and from my read on the table, I felt pretty justified in how I ran the encounter.

But you hadn't advertised it as a safe space, neither was the discussion had about avoiding that stuff and you could always resort to some fudging to get out of it.

Of course. I guess I just wanted to chip in with what I think is an example of how the game can get uncomforatble, but not intentionally.
The GM from the video was almost certainly some kind of troll. I'm boggled that they continued to interact with him afterwards. Somebody who puts rape and ejaculating mushrooms in their games for a bunch of strangers isn't the kind of person, to my mind, to have a serious conversation with. Beyond "Not a good fit for our group, have a nice life."
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Guy deliberately seeks out women he knows will be upset for his rapey Magic Realm. More an abuser than a troll I'd think.

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In the video, she says that the game was on Twitch, so it should still be there. But it also begs the question as to who none of the players just dropped out. That situation in the bar was so weird that I would have noped out the instant the DM said "wet hole".

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So, this girl tried a new DM, she didn't really like the experience (it happened to me too, BTW) and... Instead of saying "OK, I don't like this. You promised something different but I see that it was a bait. Bye!" and moving on, she... puts together a 30+ minutes rant on YouTube? What is her point? Spend the same time to find a DM you like and have fun. Is this really so complicated?
For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.

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So, this girl tried a new DM, she didn't really like the experience (it happened to me too, BTW) and... Instead of saying "OK, I don't like this. You promised something different but I see that it was a bait. Bye!" and moving on, she... puts together a 30+ minutes rant on YouTube? What is her point? Spend the same time to find a DM you like and have fun. Is this really so complicated?

Eh, no? The Youtuber had nothing to do with the situation. The victims did of course quit the game.

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So, this girl tried a new DM, she didn't really like the experience (it happened to me too, BTW) and... Instead of saying "OK, I don't like this. You promised something different but I see that it was a bait. Bye!" and moving on, she... puts together a 30+ minutes rant on YouTube? What is her point? Spend the same time to find a DM you like and have fun. Is this really so complicated?
Eh, no? The Youtuber had nothing to do with the situation. The victims did of course quit the game.

OK, I watched the video (admittedly, after ten minutes it became a voice in the background) and I missed this. Maybe it was a language problem, but... if so, this rant is even more baffling. Is she trying to "warn the World?"  ???

Edit: and 36 minutes to make a simple point? I guess that when she reached the "ejaculating mushrooms" scene everything was already crystal clear... I really and honestly do not understand what this girl is aiming to.
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For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.

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Anedote time!

The closest I've come to an "uncomfortable situation", I was GMing a 2e Dark Sun game. Everyone had rolled up wild talents, and a woman player had... I don't have the book handy, it's an 'attraction' talent, and she used that thing unmercifully on male NPCs. They were parleying with elf raiders, and she used the ability on the raider chief. Up until then, I hadn't wanted to "go there", but the situation was pretty clear to my mind. She successully used the ability on the raider chief, and I role played him "Execute them all, but the woman. Have her taken to my tent!"

I'm not squeamish, but I run a PG-13 game, it was in a public place, and the player's husband was also at the table. So I had no plans to run a "rape scene". They wound up fighting the raiders anyway, so it was moot. But for a while there, I was staring down the barrel of resolving a rather ticklish situation.

So my "uncomfortable situation" was completely driven by the actions of the player in question, and from my read on the table, I felt pretty justified in how I ran the encounter.

Well, clearly the consent worksheet would have solved this situation.

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Anedote time!

The closest I've come to an "uncomfortable situation", I was GMing a 2e Dark Sun game. Everyone had rolled up wild talents, and a woman player had... I don't have the book handy, it's an 'attraction' talent, and she used that thing unmercifully on male NPCs. They were parleying with elf raiders, and she used the ability on the raider chief. Up until then, I hadn't wanted to "go there", but the situation was pretty clear to my mind. She successully used the ability on the raider chief, and I role played him "Execute them all, but the woman. Have her taken to my tent!"

I'm not squeamish, but I run a PG-13 game, it was in a public place, and the player's husband was also at the table. So I had no plans to run a "rape scene". They wound up fighting the raiders anyway, so it was moot. But for a while there, I was staring down the barrel of resolving a rather ticklish situation.

So my "uncomfortable situation" was completely driven by the actions of the player in question, and from my read on the table, I felt pretty justified in how I ran the encounter.

Well, clearly the consent worksheet would have solved this situation.

Like it did in the game of the video? The women clearly said what they didn't want, then tried to have the DM to stop... Yep, those SJW "safety" tools sure work wonders.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

― George Orwell