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[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Started by Ocule, August 03, 2021, 12:26:41 PM

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DocJones

Quote from: Plagued on September 11, 2022, 02:11:57 PM
He doesn't speak of "aryan supremacy" anywhere in the book. His music, political beliefs and this game are maybe kind of related but at the same time the game MYFAROG deserves some respect imho.
Not only are his darkies sub-human but his overt hatred of Jews and Christians is certainly reflected in the game as well.

How dense or ignorant does one have to be to not get the reference.

Jaeger

Quote from: Ocule on September 02, 2022, 02:14:07 PM
Quote from: Formerly on September 02, 2022, 12:12:35 PM
Talsorian Games is already in the correct colour (Yellow) but might be worth to note that they recently added an optional (for now) supplement to the Witcher TRPG that includes wheelchairs intended for adventurers, and prosthetics that are "Better than the original" created by Sara Thompson, notorious for the Combat Wheelchair for DnD. She's also been involved with the 2 most recent books for the game (Book of Tales and A Tome of Chaos) So I'd be extra careful with their products going forward.

PS: They also marketed this supplement as "something pretty cool but needs a bit more time" and delayed their release schedule by a month for it

Yeah, though I didn't know she was involved with tome of chaos and book of tales. That's disheartening

The Witcher RPG - one of the most wasted IP's in the history of RPG's.

Not only is the interlock implementation not very good; but in a game Literally about monster hunters, they do not have the monster hunting bounty economy laid out and explained in the core book... You get tons of pages on Crafting, but Getting paid for killing the monster that has been killing innocent villagers? You have to wing it...

Straight-up Embarrassing.

If they did a halfway decent 5e version they would be raking in the cash hand over fist. With a decent interlock version they should be doing more than respectable.

But to actually do something good with a very popular fantasy IP?

Fuck No.
"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

Black Plague Games

Quote from: DocJones on September 11, 2022, 07:35:01 PM
Quote from: Plagued on September 11, 2022, 02:11:57 PM
He doesn't speak of "aryan supremacy" anywhere in the book. His music, political beliefs and this game are maybe kind of related but at the same time the game MYFAROG deserves some respect imho.
Not only are his darkies sub-human but his overt hatred of Jews and Christians is certainly reflected in the game as well.

How dense or ignorant does one have to be to not get the reference.

Dense or ignorant? Vikernes comes from the Norwegian black metal scene where most bands (especially first and second wave) were overtly anti-christian(/Abrahamic) and Satanic. And since Judaism and Christianity are RELIGIONS, this excerpt from the book is an obvious thing. His land of Thule doesn't want Christianity or any other Abrahamic religion present. Or its followers.

Jaeger

Quote from: Plagued on September 12, 2022, 05:22:39 AM
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Dense or ignorant? Vikernes comes from the Norwegian black metal scene where most bands (especially first and second wave) were overtly anti-christian(/Abrahamic) and Satanic. And since Judaism and Christianity are RELIGIONS, this excerpt from the book is an obvious thing. His land of Thule doesn't want Christianity or any other Abrahamic religion present. Or its followers.


Informed rather..

Vikernes apparently didn't want Christianity IRL either, hence his conviction for burning a few Christian churches down..

Red List qualifications:
"Entities who are categorized as Red may have engaged in anti-consumer behavior, ... or taken a strong political stance or alienated large portions of potential customers."

Literally Burning Christian churches.

The Red List is all about not giving money to people that hate you.
"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

DocJones

Quote from: Plagued on September 12, 2022, 05:22:39 AM
Quote from: DocJones on September 11, 2022, 07:35:01 PM
How dense or ignorant does one have to be to not get the reference.

Dense or ignorant? Vikernes comes from the Norwegian black metal scene where most bands (especially first and second wave) were overtly anti-christian(/Abrahamic) and Satanic. And since Judaism and Christianity are RELIGIONS, this excerpt from the book is an obvious thing. His land of Thule doesn't want Christianity or any other Abrahamic religion present. Or its followers.

Quote from: PlaguedShouldn't MYFAROG be in the GREEN column? It's not woke.
He (Vikernes) doesn't implement his own personal worldview in this game.

Was this you?

Zaph

Continued wokeness at Kobold Press, I honestly don't even understand the complaint:

https://koboldpress.com/amending-a-wrong/

"Last week, we were rightfully called out for culturally insensitive ideas presented in Complete Kobold Guide to Game Design, a title in our back catalog.

Since the collection of essays was published, we have grown and changed our design ethos to ensure that characters are from the areas they adventure in, as opposed to being tourists. We wholeheartedly agree: real-world cultures are not playgrounds for characters to run wildly in.

We have amended the offending essay and replaced it on our website and on DriveThruRPG.com.

We are incredibly sorry for the hurt our essay has caused."

Like, the fictional characters are supposed to be from the fictional land they're playing in? What does this mean for Spelljammer? I was considering picking up one of their monster manuals, but I'm guessing they'll be modified to focus on the plight of the Owlbear as human settlements encroach on their natural habitats.

erc1971

Quote from: Zaph on September 12, 2022, 05:54:38 PM
Continued wokeness at Kobold Press, I honestly don't even understand the complaint:

https://koboldpress.com/amending-a-wrong/

"Last week, we were rightfully called out for culturally insensitive ideas presented in Complete Kobold Guide to Game Design, a title in our back catalog.

Since the collection of essays was published, we have grown and changed our design ethos to ensure that characters are from the areas they adventure in, as opposed to being tourists. We wholeheartedly agree: real-world cultures are not playgrounds for characters to run wildly in.

We have amended the offending essay and replaced it on our website and on DriveThruRPG.com.

We are incredibly sorry for the hurt our essay has caused."

Like, the fictional characters are supposed to be from the fictional land they're playing in? What does this mean for Spelljammer? I was considering picking up one of their monster manuals, but I'm guessing they'll be modified to focus on the plight of the Owlbear as human settlements encroach on their natural habitats.

This is hilarious.  I guess we have to cancel RPGPundit's Silk Road book - we can't have people traveling to places they are not from, that is racist now, lol.

Palleon

I don't buy their essays, so am clueless as to what they changed here.  The Kobold Press settings, monster books and adventures are usually quite good as long as high fantasy is in your wheelhouse.

Vampire Rabbit

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read about TTRPGs. Kobold Press has gone hyper-ridiculous!
B/X for LIFE!

Zaph

I don't own any of their products, so I don't know what changed either, but this seems like a definite statement that will impact their line. Isn't Midgard of theirs a Viking setting? Bad news for them about those guys...

I honestly had only heard about them for adventures and monsters that seemed deadlier than standard D&D 5E. Maybe they feel threatened because they're one of the highest profile 3rd party vendors?

Palleon

This is the bullshit that KP redacted the article for.  https://whatdoiknowjr.com/2022/09/10/spring-break-and-kobold-press/

Henceforth in interest of equality, no person who is not of European descent shall be allowed to create content for the Eurocentric default settings of D&D.  They can't possibly comprehend the myth and legends that inspired the game to begin with.

Ocule

Quote from: Palleon on September 12, 2022, 06:20:22 PM
This is the bullshit that KP redacted the article for.  https://whatdoiknowjr.com/2022/09/10/spring-break-and-kobold-press/

Henceforth in interest of equality, no person who is not of European descent shall be allowed to create content for the Eurocentric default settings of D&D.  They can't possibly comprehend the myth and legends that inspired the game to begin with.
I fucking hate these people. The absurdity never ends does it
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Quote from: Palleon on September 12, 2022, 06:20:22 PM
This is the bullshit that KP redacted the article for.  https://whatdoiknowjr.com/2022/09/10/spring-break-and-kobold-press/

Henceforth in interest of equality, no person who is not of European descent shall be allowed to create content for the Eurocentric default settings of D&D.  They can't possibly comprehend the myth and legends that inspired the game to begin with.

    I'd find the offense they took at that passage more believable if D&D had any tradition of respecting European culture with any greater depth than what Baur describes as approaching Arabian culture. Or has D&D typically explored the distinction between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, between Latin, Germanic, and Slavic roots, or how the Incarnation impacts medieval culture from pilgrimages to relics to chivalry?

DocJones

I have the original on drivethru... so I updated it without overwriting the original.
They just removed that particular paragraph and left the rest of the essay alone.
It still contains...
"Creating fun, exotic people and setting them in motion quickly helps a designer capture the storytelling side of the Arabian Nights."
The woke SJWs just hate it when you refer to a people as exotic. 
I see more groveling apologies ahead.
LOL

Zaph

Quote from: DocJones on September 12, 2022, 09:08:29 PM

The woke SJWs just hate it when you refer to a people as exotic. 
I see more groveling apologies ahead.
LOL

Yeah, they'll be on the Woke Wheel of Pain for awhile.